[Mrdrywall]

Thank you for posting my pics Mudslinger. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. But anyway I've had this rig for about 11 years. It remained unchanged untill about a year ago. Now spray life is so much easier. Replaced the engine. 2 mo ago. Old one blew up with a garage left to spray.(that was a bad day)With a 25 hp kohler. Just rebuilt the rol-air k50 myself. Had never done it before. But didn't want my rig sitting in a shop for a week. Took me 2 hrs. The extra hose racks really simplify things for doing patch work. And didn't plan it when I had them added. But I can lay 4 compleat sets of scaffolding on top. As I found out a few weeks ago. And with the added axel. weight is not a issue.

 

[Mudslinger]

Thank you for posting my pics Mudslinger. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. But anyway I've had this rig for about 11 years. It remained unchanged untill about a year ago. Now spray life is so much easier. Replaced the engine. 2 mo ago. Old one blew up with a garage left to spray.(that was a bad day)With a 25 hp kohler. Just rebuilt the rol-air k50 myself. Had never done it before. But didn't want my rig sitting in a shop for a week. Took me 2 hrs. The extra hose racks really simplify things for doing patch work. And didn't plan it when I had them added. But I can lay 4 compleat sets of scaffolding on top. As I found out a few weeks ago. And with the added axel. weight is not a issue.

Not a problem, the pics were just to big and needed to be resized. Like I said nice setup, wish mine had the k50 on it. I just put a new k35 on mine about a year ago. Does the job, but its always nice to have more air:yes:.

 

[Mrdrywall]

so what happened to the k50

 

[Mudslinger]

Mine never had one, just wish it did. What kind of gun are you using on your rig? I've been using the stock spray king pole guns, but keep thinking of switching over to a Binks for knockdown.

 

[Mudslinger]

I used to have pics of my spray truck on here, but here it is again.

 

[saskataper]

This is my texture setup. I don't do a lot of texture, mostly water damage repair or small Renos so this is perfect. I can load up the enforcer at home with enough to do about 400 sqft and the compressor is a ridgid twin stack that has a twin tank it hooks onto. I can carry the whole setup in one trip. The only beef with the enforcer is the way you fill it with the pump you have to clamp a hose to the box filler then unscrew the cap on the top of the gun and force the hose onto the threads, I want to see if I can get a check valve put on the gun like on the bazookas.

 

[Mrdrywall]

Mine never had one, just wish it did. What kind of gun are you using on your rig? I've been using the stock spray king pole guns, but keep thinking of switching over to a Binks for knockdown.

whll aroud here we mostly use just the binks head. and make our own pole guns to hook it to. for knockdown . for orange peel,and everything else we use the valcano tips. also on scd 40 pvc pipe

 

[Mrdrywall]

This is my texture setup. I don't do a lot of texture, mostly water damage repair or small Renos so this is perfect. I can load up the enforcer at home with enough to do about 400 sqft and the compressor is a ridgid twin stack that has a twin tank it hooks onto. I can carry the whole setup in one trip. The only beef with the enforcer is the way you fill it with the pump you have to clamp a hose to the box filler then unscrew the cap on the top of the gun and force the hose onto the threads, I want to see if I can get a check valve put on the gun like on the bazookas.

wow 400 sqft. never thought it would carry that much.thats about what i spray now adays with my big rig.lol

 

[drywallsprayer]

Mine never had one, just wish it did. What kind of gun are you using on your rig? I've been using the stock spray king pole guns, but keep thinking of switching over to a Binks for knockdown.

So did you make the jump over to the Binks gun? I've been thinking about trying one for a while now. They are just so expensive that it has held me back. I figure if I buy it and don't like it, it will become another expensive useless tool on the shelf. I was looking at getting the 7E2. Not real sure as to what tip sizes and all that stuff people are using to spray knockdown and op with the Binks though. I have never sprayed with one before.

We still run Spray King Mixer Nozzles on both of our rigs. Does the job just fine, but always curious to see if their might be something better out there.

 

[Mudslinger]

So did you make the jump over to the Binks gun? I've been thinking about trying one for a while now. They are just so expensive that it has held me back. I figure if I buy it and don't like it, it will become another expensive useless tool on the shelf. I was looking at getting the 7E2. Not real sure as to what tip sizes and all that stuff people are using to spray knockdown and op with the Binks though. I have never sprayed with one before.

We still run Spray King Mixer Nozzles on both of our rigs. Does the job just fine, but always curious to see if their might be something better out there.

A relative gave me a Titan speeflo pole gun used on a 15: powertex pump. It has a fluid nozzle like a binks so I've been trying that out. I didn't like the length so I shortened it up. I like the fact you can't plug your air holes when spraying knockdown without the tip, but I still really like the look of my spray king pole guns. I hear you the binks guns get expensive. I like the look of the PSI Pumping Spraz-All gun. I think they use Binks tips, and you wouldn't have all the moving parts to wear out.

 

[drywallsprayer]

A relative gave me a Titan speeflo pole gun used on a 15: powertex pump. It has a fluid nozzle like a binks so I've been trying that out. I didn't like the length so I shortened it up. I like the fact you can't plug your air holes when spraying knockdown without the tip, but I still really like the look of my spray king pole guns. I hear you the binks guns get expensive. I like the look of the PSI Pumping Spraz-All gun. I think they use Binks tips, and you wouldn't have all the moving parts to wear out.

Interesting. That tip clog is a real pain in the a$$! That is the main reason I'm looking at the Binks. Be nice to have a good pattern and never have to pull out the tip to clean the air holes. Yeah the spray king pole guns spray a beautiful pattern and do a heck of a job minus the air hole clog. Same with the Spray Force and AST. The AST ones we have we cross-threaded and stripped the cap after 2 uses and scrapped them--the threads are so sharp that they pinch very easily if not careful.

I came across those PSI guns a while back and called them up. Ended up talking to one of their people for a while about Spray Foam rigs and and never got a price on one the guns. Seems like they build one hell of a Foam rig if that's your thing.

The other option I've been considering is this:

http://texture.sprayrig.com/product_p/7e2_flex_assy_elec.htm

Best of both worlds. Be pretty easy to build a copy of that but I'd rather just buy it and not mess with it. Benefit to that is you can run AST's Internal Mix tips and use it as a regular pole gun. I could stick it on my Spray King 300 Dual Tank 100 gallon side as it doesn't get used much and justify the purchase.

 

[Mudslinger]

Interesting. That tip clog is a real pain in the a$$! That is the main reason I'm looking at the Binks. Be nice to have a good pattern and never have to pull out the tip to clean the air holes. Yeah the spray king pole guns spray a beautiful pattern and do a heck of a job minus the air hole clog. Same with the Spray Force and AST. The AST ones we have we cross-threaded and stripped the cap after 2 uses and scrapped them--the threads are so sharp that they pinch very easily if not careful.

I came across those PSI guns a while back and called them up. Ended up talking to one of their people for a while about Spray Foam rigs and and never got a price on one the guns. Seems like they build one hell of a Foam rig if that's your thing.

The other option I've been considering is this:

http://texture.sprayrig.com/product_p/7e2_flex_assy_elec.htm

Best of both worlds. Be pretty easy to build a copy of that but I'd rather just buy it and not mess with it. Benefit to that is you can run AST's Internal Mix tips and use it as a regular pole gun. I could stick it on my Spray King 300 Dual Tank 100 gallon side as it doesn't get used much and justify the purchase.

The price on that flex head gun with the Binks head is hard to beat, I've thought of it myself. I remember you saying that the AST pole gun cross-threaded on you, that would really suck.

Those PSI foam rigs seem like the way to go. I bought my sprayer from a foamer, and have been intersted in it since seeing the money that guy had lol. Don't know who put this rig together, but it uses a pump like PSI. http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/grd/3178936573.html Old dirty and used, but the price is so cheap it makes a guy think. The farm house in the pictures is hilarious, looks like they just foamed the whole outside of the house. Need more insulation, new siding , and a roof? Well hell we'll just foam the whole damn outside of the thing!

 

[Mudslinger]

Check out this gun from Benron, looks like it would work on a big rig if you have electric pump controls. Not that big of a deal to turn them on/off manually, but in some situations it would really be nice having automatic controls. Probably just a simple switch setup, being they aren't showing it. Their guns put out a pretty nice texture when you use the fine finish. I'm not sure how it would hold up to daily use, and abuse though.

 

[drywallsprayer]

The price on that flex head gun with the Binks head is hard to beat, I've thought of it myself. I remember you saying that the AST pole gun cross-threaded on you, that would really suck.

Those PSI foam rigs seem like the way to go. I bought my sprayer from a foamer, and have been intersted in it since seeing the money that guy had lol. Don't know who put this rig together, but it uses a pump like PSI. http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/grd/3178936573.html Old dirty and used, but the price is so cheap it makes a guy think. The farm house in the pictures is hilarious, looks like they just foamed the whole outside of the house. Need more insulation, new siding , and a roof? Well hell we'll just foam the whole damn outside of the thing!

Yeah the head cross-threading did suck. Especially after buying the whole set of tips a $57 a piece plus the cost of the gun head. Luckily we had finished spraying when we noticed it otherwise it would have been a worse. Now they all just sit on the a shelf in the shop collecting dust. I'm thinking here pretty quick I might be making some room on the shelf next to them for a Binks 7E2. Lol

That two gun rig PSI builds is just a monster. Two 300' hoses spraying at the same time or link them together and spray one at 600'. Same here--those foam guys make a fortune. Be nice to offer the whole package--foam, hanging, and finishing. But at the same time who wants another headache?

That rig is pretty cheap! Would make a good starter rig without a lot of cost. Wow! Never seen anything like that farm house. I guess that would take a care of the whole thing--the foamer has some balls for doing that, would have never crossed my mind!

 

[drywallsprayer]

Check out this gun from Benron, looks like it would work on a big rig if you have electric pump controls. Not that big of a deal to turn them on/off manually, but in some situations it would really be nice having automatic controls. Probably just a simple switch setup, being they aren't showing it. Their guns put out a pretty nice texture when you use the fine finish. I'm not sure how it would hold up to daily use, and abuse though.
Automatic Texture Spray Gun - YouTube

That would be real nice to have automatic controls like that. Turning the stator on an off manually gets old sometimes. Our Spray Force is electric but the Spray King is air engage. One time when the Spray King was new the wrong air connection was pulled--in other words the airline was pulled off instead of the pump control line and it was a circus trying to get it back together! Made a nice mess! It just takes doing that one time to learn which air connection is which. Lol.

It looks a little bit fragile. I'm sure we could beat the hell out of pretty quickly!

 

[drywallsprayer]

Well I bought the Binks 7E2 set up. Hooked it up today and have been spraying into the tank and am not liking what I see so far. When the pump speed is very slow it breaks up the material ok, but when you turn up the pump even a little bit it just becomes an almost solid stream with very little break up. Can't figure out why it does that. Turned up the throttle on the diesel past half way to get more rpm's to the compressor and it helps a tiny bit but not enough to make any real difference.

The internal mix pole guns we have break up the material the same way regardless what speed the hydraulic pump is set at. This gun doesn't do that for some reason. I bought a 45SS a 46SS fluid nozzle and 1/4" and 3/8" round tips and get the same results with both fluid nozzles and the 3/8" tip. Didn't try the 1/4" tip.

Anybody that has a Binks gun ever experienced anything like this? Any idea's of what could be going on?

 

[Mudslinger]

Well I bought the Binks 7E2 set up. Hooked it up today and have been spraying into the tank and am not liking what I see so far. When the pump speed is very slow it breaks up the material ok, but when you turn up the pump even a little bit it just becomes an almost solid stream with very little break up. Can't figure out why it does that. Turned up the throttle on the diesel past half way to get more rpm's to the compressor and it helps a tiny bit but not enough to make any real difference.

The internal mix pole guns we have break up the material the same way regardless what speed the hydraulic pump is set at. This gun doesn't do that for some reason. I bought a 45SS a 46SS fluid nozzle and 1/4" and 3/8" round tips and get the same results with both fluid nozzles and the 3/8" tip. Didn't try the 1/4" tip.

Anybody that has a Binks gun ever experienced anything like this? Any idea's of what could be going on?

Sounds like you don't have enough air. Are you turning your air pump on, or do you spray knockdowns off the unloaders? On mine I have plenty of air without turning on the air pump with the Spray King pole gun, but I have to turn on the pump for a Binks style. Most guys don't bother with a tip when doing knockdowns with a Binks. Give that a try, and see if you like it.

 

[drywallmike08]

I've heard that before. You can spray knockdown without a tip in the blinks gun ?

 

[Mudslinger]

I've heard that before. You can spray knockdown without a tip in the blinks gun ?

You can spray it without a tip if you have a fluid nozzle. I saw your using a AST tip on you Binks, and if I remember right that takes the place of the fluid nozzle and tip. So you would need to put a Binks type fluid nozzle in to make it work.