Here is a job that we opted not to bid on because we new the builder was cheap.A friend of mine works for the builder,so yesterday I decided to drop by & see what he's paying dirt for.
I'll let you guys be the judge.
You get what you pay for >A tapers nightmare
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Final touch drywall
Here is a job that we opted not to bid on because we new the builder was cheap.A friend of mine works for the builder,so yesterday I decided to drop by & see what he's paying dirt for.
I'll let you guys be the judge.
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I was thinking that at first, and then I noticed the 20+ ft. long ba$tard joint.
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it could be....hard to tell...just looks like a gapped flat to me...like one guy didn't get his end tight.....but it is hard to tell from the pic....op that took them could say what were looking at maybe
They probably don,t use them where these amigos came from!
@ final touch, you should post more info and pictures of the work you do.. your a true craftsman from what i've seen in the past and i like reading your posts. also keep us updated on the finishing on THIS project. i'm curious how it turns out.
rock job doesn't look too bad.. but on a $3 mil house, anything less then perfect is absurd. greedy contractor will get what he has coming eventually.
@ mt buckets painting, 'let the taper fix it' has been the going philosophy for ages now.. and we don't get paid to compensate... its bull****, but i still like what i do so i suck it up i guess..
rock job doesn't look too bad.. but on a $3 mil house, anything less then perfect is absurd. greedy contractor will get what he has coming eventually.
@ mt buckets painting, 'let the taper fix it' has been the going philosophy for ages now.. and we don't get paid to compensate... its bull****, but i still like what i do so i suck it up i guess..
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Thanks,I will stop in periodically & take some pics along the way.
I found out more about the house today,its on the market for 8million ,& the Dw company that got the job, was 10grand cheaper than the lowest bid.
.In pic #1 that is a cut seem in the next row from the closest board.You can see that row is only 3ft wide.
The only thing these guys new was a t-sqaure, a knife & how to turn the screw gun on.:blink:
P.S.They showed up with Florida plates on the van
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Thanks,I will stop in periodically & take some pics along the way.
I found out more about the house today,its on the market for 8million ,& the Dw company that got the job, was 10grand cheaper than the lowest bid.
In pic #1 that is a cut seem in the next row from the closest board.You can see that row is only 3ft wide.
The only thing these guys new was a t-sqaure, a knife & how to turn the screw gun on.:blink:
P.S.They showed up with Florida plates on the van
Easy there!! not all of us from Florida speak spanish!!!!
:thumbup:FREEEESSSSHHHHH FLAKES!!!!! Yup ya get what ya pay for!!! I guess they left theyre 'angle chalkbox' at home that day,had to use the straight one:thumbsup:. Not nearly enough sets in the butts...n butts n butts.....The only thing wrong with that job starts with the builder....and keeps going.....work another dollar store crew!!
hmmm. there is a poster from PA on this board that said some regional drywall company is flat rate, bulk bidding up and down the east coast, using cheap subs.. i would assume making tons of money.. like defunked former builders or something with college degrees. i wonder if its those dudes...Thanks,I will stop in periodically & take some pics along the way.
I found out more about the house today,its on the market for 8million ,& the Dw company that got the job, was 10grand cheaper than the lowest bid.
In pic #1 that is a cut seem in the next row from the closest board.You can see that row is only 3ft wide.
The only thing these guys new was a t-sqaure, a knife & how to turn the screw gun on.:blink:
P.S.They showed up with Florida plates on the van
what floors me is the fact that this builder would take a bid so significantly lower then what the local standard is without caring, or drawing a red flag... once again, this industry needs to be severally purged of all its bad business and bad people.. i mean, if craftsman guys like us don't even have a market in higher end building, we are officially ****ed.
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Just because its on the market for 8 mill.that doesn't autmatically make the builder a good one or even repitble.All its means is this guy got luckey and won the bid.and will get the cheepest subs to do all thera work and he make more in the end..I have found out over the years...the people with money.have it because there cheep..Its not right but it is how it works now a days.I belive in quality first
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Hey we have some of the best Finishers, Hangers, and Metal Stud framers. I hear it all the time from Supers who travel all around the country, they always compliment us for great finishing work, quick hanging, and precise framing.Thanks,I will stop in periodically & take some pics along the way.
I found out more about the house today,its on the market for 8million ,& the Dw company that got the job, was 10grand cheaper than the lowest bid.
In pic #1 that is a cut seem in the next row from the closest board.You can see that row is only 3ft wide.
The only thing these guys new was a t-sqaure, a knife & how to turn the screw gun on.:blink:
P.S.They showed up with Florida plates on the van
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You've never had a challenging job before, have you?
That hanging job is nice compared to what I had had to deal with so far.
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Yes I have done challengeing work...my point is you dont get good by doing easy work.hard and challengeing work is where you learn
I get jobs like that all the time from people. But thats not cheap finish job. And he got his number to hang it.. I am sure anyone of us here could make that job look mint. But for the right price. :whistling2:
I know I can shine a turd for the right price.
I know I can shine a turd for the right price.
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this looks like a good job for vario mud?
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FTD... who is really at fault here on this job,, ???? Looks to me like a run and gun job,, some hangers are good at it and some are not.. seriously an 8M job should have all 5/8" rock..IMO. Makes you wonder how long it will take the framing to move and crack out the tape.. I just went back for a second go around on repairs to a 2 year old home ,, I originally did the DW work on.. I am in no position to demand the earth stop moving,, I think thats why they make concrete ,, not sure,, and tree's grow all the time,, just can't seem to put the tree's together and make them last... But hey it's only a 400K home..That took a forest to build.Thanks,I will stop in periodically & take some pics along the way.
I found out more about the house today,its on the market for 8million ,& the Dw company that got the job, was 10grand cheaper than the lowest bid.
In pic #1 that is a cut seem in the next row from the closest board.You can see that row is only 3ft wide.
The only thing these guys new was a t-sqaure, a knife & how to turn the screw gun on.:blink:
P.S.They showed up with Florida plates on the van
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In picture six it looks like they hung the ceiling after the walls. Im no professional hanger but aren't you supposed to hang the lids, than the walls? Or is it done differently for peaked roofs?
I also have never seen red buckets.
I have recently had to bids i went to give estimates on in which the home owner thought my price of $75 and hour for two men on the job was way to much. He had two skylights he wanted plugged up at the bottom, and one of them had a leak that had been repaired so he also had drywall that needed to be rehung. I figure it would take me 2 hours per hole to fix. I would have to frame it in, figuring that would be better then cutting the drywall to find the studs. replace the old drywall to the side and do the same. thing for the other sky light. they were about 14 feet in the air.. he also stated he wanted them to look like it was already there and match with the knockdown texture. He had a very thick texture that i am sure know hopper can match. Plus he wanted it painted. My final price was $600. His home was 580k in a rich part of orlando. He said he felt the job was only worth $300 bucks. I told him my price is for quality, and he said he can't justify paying 6c for "half a days work" My total labor was for 8 hours. 6.5 for repairs and 1.5 for painting. and that was probably off by an hour. I simply informed him that i was referred to him that i usually charge 50 per hour per person and 600 was my low price, and i would be more then happy to come back and charge him my typical show up texture fee of 200 to plus whatever it took to make the texture look new again after the cheap person he has to fix it. so my total price for that was 350. still above his 300 that he only wants to pay.
I also have never seen red buckets.
I have recently had to bids i went to give estimates on in which the home owner thought my price of $75 and hour for two men on the job was way to much. He had two skylights he wanted plugged up at the bottom, and one of them had a leak that had been repaired so he also had drywall that needed to be rehung. I figure it would take me 2 hours per hole to fix. I would have to frame it in, figuring that would be better then cutting the drywall to find the studs. replace the old drywall to the side and do the same. thing for the other sky light. they were about 14 feet in the air.. he also stated he wanted them to look like it was already there and match with the knockdown texture. He had a very thick texture that i am sure know hopper can match. Plus he wanted it painted. My final price was $600. His home was 580k in a rich part of orlando. He said he felt the job was only worth $300 bucks. I told him my price is for quality, and he said he can't justify paying 6c for "half a days work" My total labor was for 8 hours. 6.5 for repairs and 1.5 for painting. and that was probably off by an hour. I simply informed him that i was referred to him that i usually charge 50 per hour per person and 600 was my low price, and i would be more then happy to come back and charge him my typical show up texture fee of 200 to plus whatever it took to make the texture look new again after the cheap person he has to fix it. so my total price for that was 350. still above his 300 that he only wants to pay.
reading this made my blood boil only because it happens so much. rich a**hole all of the sudden is a pro drywaller and knows how long and what it takes to fix something, get it perfect and get out.. expects you to work for pennies even though your strugglling. i dont even bother driving out to peoples homes anymore because of pricks like this...
i guess you don't get rich without being an f'n tight wad..
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its no big deal to me. before i go anywhere i now ask if they have a budget that they are working with. I just started this method 3 days ago and it at least lets me know if they are somewhat cheap or not.
I recently received an email from a woman wanting popcorn removal, knockdown and paint. hI told her it can be up to 2.50sq/ft. her reply back was sh already has a bid for 1.25. my reply was that is low, my minium is at least 1.40 and it only includes x stuff. I told her if she is looking for a the lowest bid i am not the company for her, but if she wants quality at a fair price i will come out. she emailed me back saying she still wants me to come out. so she obviously knows my bid is at least 1.40 on the low side.
It means i at least have a shot at getting the project, plus i have charm and grace. to much debenair for one man. so the rubberband man starts to jam.
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