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#141 ·
Deezal said:
I just looked too, seems to me you can get a couple fingers on that black part just below the bit for stabilization, almost 16" is pretty long for a router all though there corded drywall one is long an skinny compared to others. That dewalt one is not a good comparison. I was buying one every year for awhile, they kept screwing up just after the warranty was up so that was awesome, ill never buy one again, I use the rotozip cordless currently and found it to be far superior. All cordless routers seem to have troubles with 5/8 board especially the dewalt, the rotozip handles much better and doesn't get as bogged down by the thicker board but it still requires you to slow down a bit as you don't want to try to drag it through as it just burns them out real quick. all cordless routers like grinders have a very small work time with them really not good for windows or doors (most guys I know use a 1/4 bit o. That stuff anyways. I always use mine for cutting things out of tops ie pipes and cut outs to studs to fit around them etc, nice thing about the rotozip is it has a battery check button, find myself usein it all the time, nothing worse than getting in the lift and flipping the switch and it goes dead lol back down again. Anyway all I'm saying is there is a substantial loss of power and work time and you really have to pick your battles with them as they just aren't the same.....yet
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Hey Deazle your not kidding with the choose your battles with that roto zip cordless. They don't make them any more and i agree they are the best cordless last one i seen was a few months ago it died on my good buddy he was sad for sure.:eek:
 
#142 ·
Seriously hope that die grander works out, with rotozip outta production ill r be back to corded I think. Definitely hoping that rotozip comes out with something new because dewalt cordless doesn't exist to me anymore the last one I had took a fall from a 3ft bench and was dead after.... Enough said.
 
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Deezal said:
I just looked too, seems to me you can get a couple fingers on that black part just below the bit for stabilization, almost 16" is pretty long for a router all though there corded drywall one is long an skinny compared to others. That dewalt one is not a good comparison. I was buying one every year for awhile, they kept screwing up just after the warranty was up so that was awesome, ill never buy one again, I use the rotozip cordless currently and found it to be far superior. All cordless routers seem to have troubles with 5/8 board especially the dewalt, the rotozip handles much better and doesn't get as bogged down by the thicker board but it still requires you to slow down a bit as you don't want to try to drag it through as it just burns them out real quick. all cordless routers like grinders have a very small work time with them really not good for windows or doors (most guys I know use a 1/4 bit o. That stuff anyways. I always use mine for cutting things out of tops ie pipes and cut outs to studs to fit around them etc, nice thing about the rotozip is it has a battery check button, find myself usein it all the time, nothing worse than getting in the lift and flipping the switch and it goes dead lol back down again. Anyway all I'm saying is there is a substantial loss of power and work time and you really have to pick your battles with them as they just aren't the same.....yet
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The one that I got is not 16 inches long, it is just under 12. It looks like the one I got is not available in the USA or Canada. Here is the difference.
 

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Discussion starter · #148 ·
gazman said:
Yes I have had a chance to give it a go, at this stage the jury is still out. This is the first battery one that I have tried, and compared to my corded one is was a little disappointing. A mate has a battery dewalt which I will have a chance to try Thursday. After Thursday I will report back that way I will be comparing apples with apples.
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Well I lined the Makita Die grinder up against the Dewalt router today. They both are equal as to the how quickly they eat the rock, but that is where the similarity ends. The Makita is slightly heavier (better built IMO). The Makita is Smooooth, where as the Dewalt sounds like it will rattle it self apart. ( The Dwalt is only a week old) The trigger on the Makita is easier to use than the Dewalt. The only down side I have found with the Makita is because it is a die grinder it does not have a spindle lock, meaning you have to use two spanners to change the bit. I have come to the realization that using the cordless is different to the corded router and you cant just push it hard. Both machines used identical bits, 1/4 Roto Zip bits. All in all I give the die grinder a thumbs up.

Corded Makita 10/10

Cordless Makita Die grinder 9/10

Dewalt cordless router 6.5/10


Cheers Gaz.
 
#150 ·
gazman said:
Well I lined the Makita Die grinder up against the Dewalt router today. They both are equal as to the how quickly they eat the rock, but that is where the similarity ends. The Makita is slightly heavier (better built IMO). The Makita is Smooooth, where as the Dewalt sounds like it will rattle it self apart. ( The Dwalt is only a week old) The trigger on the Makita is easier to use than the Dewalt. The only down side I have found with the Makita is because it is a die grinder it does not have a spindle lock, meaning you have to use two spanners to change the bit. I have come to the realization that using the cordless is different to the corded router and you cant just push it hard. Both machines used identical bits, 1/4 Roto Zip bits. All in all I give the die grinder a thumbs up.

Corded Makita 10/10

Cordless Makita Die grinder 9/10

Dewalt cordless router 6.5/10


Cheers Gaz.
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Way to go mate....tell us how good it is. You forgot to remind us that we can't get it over here:whistling2:

(Seriously though, thanks for the review)
 
#152 ·
FRP fiber reinforced plastic
for straight and other free hand cuts with a router make a score line with a knife or circle cutter and follow the score line with the router. Makes it much easier and helps prevent the router from wandreing
It took 7 years for Roto zip to fully catch on in North America
Wonder if my drywall cutter will take that long www.wallboardersbuddy.com
 
#154 ·
gazman said:
Well I lined the Makita Die grinder up against the Dewalt router today. They both are equal as to the how quickly they eat the rock, but that is where the similarity ends. The Makita is slightly heavier (better built IMO). The Makita is Smooooth, where as the Dewalt sounds like it will rattle it self apart. ( The Dwalt is only a week old) The trigger on the Makita is easier to use than the Dewalt. The only down side I have found with the Makita is because it is a die grinder it does not have a spindle lock, meaning you have to use two spanners to change the bit. I have come to the realization that using the cordless is different to the corded router and you cant just push it hard. Both machines used identical bits, 1/4 Roto Zip bits. All in all I give the die grinder a thumbs up.

Corded Makita 10/10

Cordless Makita Die grinder 9/10

Dewalt cordless router 6.5/10


Cheers Gaz.
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Gaz, you can make it work with 1/8 inch bits too,

Makita 192987-1
^thats the part number for other collet :D
 
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#156 ·
mud bud said:
FRP fiber reinforced plastic
for straight and other free hand cuts with a router make a score line with a knife or circle cutter and follow the score line with the router. Makes it much easier and helps prevent the router from wandreing
It took 7 years for Roto zip to fully catch on in North America
Wonder if my drywall cutter will take that long www.wallboardersbuddy.com
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Not to piss in your cheerios but I don't see that ever becoming a must have item for professional drywall guys.
 
#158 ·
Rock ripper cannot cut down to the floor because of the size of the T-square.
What makes you think the knife gets sloppy? Mine has not had that problem after three years of use.
Not to worried about all the pros getting on board but when you have a house or apartment full of window returns it is a time saver that provides superior quality cuts
DIY is the main focus, beginners find it useful and carpenters like me use it all the time when installing fire stops.
I had someone who never cut drywall in his life cut me perfect 2 + 1/4 inch door liners the other day after strapping a wall out.
Close to 2,000 happy customers now.
 
#159 ·
mud bud said:
Rock ripper cannot cut down to the floor because of the size of the T-square.
What makes you think the knife gets sloppy? Mine has not had that problem after three years of use.
Not to worried about all the pros getting on board but when you have a house or apartment full of window returns it is a time saver that provides superior quality cuts
DIY is the main focus, beginners find it useful and carpenters like me use it all the time when installing fire stops.
I had someone who never cut drywall in his life cut me perfect 2 + 1/4 inch door liners the other day after strapping a wall out.
Close to 2,000 happy customers now.
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Your right, this is a site for pro's, not DIY's:yes:

The router was a game changer for the professional drywaller, your product will never be. Take it to a DIY site:whistling2:
 
#160 · (Edited)
mud bud said:
Rock ripper cannot cut down to the floor because of the size of the T-square.
What makes you think the knife gets sloppy? Mine has not had that problem after three years of use.
Not to worried about all the pros getting on board but when you have a house or apartment full of window returns it is a time saver that provides superior quality cuts
DIY is the main focus, beginners find it useful and carpenters like me use it all the time when installing fire stops.
I had someone who never cut drywall in his life cut me perfect 2 + 1/4 inch door liners the other day after strapping a wall out.
Close to 2,000 happy customers now.
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Well, i read 2 reviews, one said it was great (wall tools) and the other (all wall) was bad.

To be hounest, I really do like the idea. And your right, the rock ripper doesnt cut all the way down if the sheets are on the wall. In canada, the rock ripper is 46 dollars, and even though I live 15 mins from the US, home depot doesnt sell it in store(retarded really, canada only sells in store for double the price..., us is cheaper, but you have to order it on-line. So I have neither. So I take it you have input on this tool, if you sold so many? I would like to see a beefed up version. Drywallers aren't easy on their tools, hahaha.
Maybe if it was all metal, and you could adjust the knife part in case its out of whack, I would pay double the current price for it.
Like you say, I feel this tool would be awesome, especially for me, because I make alot of 2' cuts in tight spaces, and often hang by myself. I would be a real time saver for those that dont butt board
 
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