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hand finishing was 10" then 14 curved trowel never bothered to change/dont fix what aint broke!!!!
When using the 14 does your joint stay about 14" or closer to 28" ?

I always tell a guy I work with sometimes to keep the finish 14" wide(he uses a flat 14" for finish coat).This makes me absolutely nuts !:wallbash: No need to double it up to 28 ! Ever see a 28" box I ask him ?:blink:
No reason for any flat to be wider than 14" IMO. Not that it doesn't work but you use more mud unnecessarily and create more sanding. I don't like creating work that doesn't need to be there.:censored:
 
I pre-fill everything first.And when i wet tape i fill the bevel.Never have to open the boxes right up.8-10 will work as well as 10-12.With the bevel already flat the boxes run like glass,,flat as pancake!!What is this crowned trowel that you shcpeak of:eek:
Somebody hasn't been reading through all the threads:rolleyes:

It's a trowel with a arch, bend, curve ,crown in it. I call it the poor mans box. If your good with the H&T, you can have it look almost like a box was running.

Guys who run straight knives can put a bend in their knives if they want. It's kind of hard to do that with a trowel, so they manufacture one with a bend in it.

Now get reading:D
 
Somebody hasn't been reading through all the threads:rolleyes:

It's a trowel with a arch, bend, curve ,crown in it. I call it the poor mans box. If your good with the H&T, you can have it look almost like a box was running.

Guys who run straight knives can put a bend in their knives if they want. It's kind of hard to do that with a trowel, so they manufacture one with a bend in it.

Now get reading:D
Hey 2buck..I know what they are bro..Just not sure why anybody would need one to make something flat??Lol,,:thumbsup:
 
Is a hanger something that should be cut out,pre-filled then then taped flat??Not meaning to be disrespectful..Just don't know what a hanger is unless where talking about framing..Cheers
Hanger is a drywaller, and ill address you and moore in this post

Said "if you want to put a bend in your straight knife" I'm a H&T guy so.....

2 coat bead is possible, depending on what bead you install and what material your using.

and toddr, do the blades on your box not arch/curve , or are you just running your boxes on #5 all the time ????????
 
Hanger is a drywaller, and ill address you and moore in this post

Said "if you want to put a bend in your straight knife" I'm a H&T guy so.....

2 coat bead is possible, depending on what bead you install and what material your using.

and toddr, do the blades on your box not arch/curve , or are you just running your boxes on #5 all the time ????????
Gottcha!!Here is S.Ontario they call us boardmen..Not hangers..Sorry about the confusion.Oh and i can 2 coat beads with a flat trowel easily with the right compound..Just gotta load it up first try right outta the box..Machine Mud works best for this method..Hardly shrinks back if the temp is appropriate..Three coats is the way to go thou..Peace
 
2 COAT BEAD
sorry my friend ..no such thing
Paper bead, except for bullnose paper is 99.999999% a 2 coat deal for me.I use straight mud(BMITJ), no water on both coats. I only give a 3rd if the mud was too soft to start with out of the box and it ends up shrinking more than usual.

Vinyl is a very different story as you already know !:yes: Three or more if you're as fussy as me and your pics look like you are.:thumbsup:
 
*ahem* cough-cough-BS-cough

Full coat with hot mud (12" trowel-slightly hollow), light skim with 14-16" depending on who hung the bead.....buff the edge, kill the lap, breeze the body, done. (love ya buddy! haha...did I really just type that? Oh yeah I did!)
WHAT about the ripples? ,,not being a a-hole a real question . do you side stripe your bead final coat?
 
Paper bead, except for bullnose paper is 99.999999% a 2 coat deal for me.I use straight mud(BMITJ), no water on both coats. I only give a 3rd if the mud was too soft to start with out of the box and it ends up shrinking more than usual.

Vinyl is a very different story as you already know !:yes: Three or more if you're as fussy as me and your pics look like you are.:thumbsup:
Thank you for jumping in:yes:

Our DWC would ask us how many coats we put on our bead, we would tell him 3 when working in town, but 2 when working out of town. Then watch his face go red:furious:

If you do put 2 or 3 cups of sheetrock in with machine mud, it's amazing how little it skrinks. But our DWC figured out our secret, and stopped supplying machine mud. In some ways 2 coat bead is not worth the effort. and machine mud is ok, but it takes for ever to dry, and it's too soft. So I don't miss that mud, hand tapers seem to like that mud better than machine tapers.

I don't get to play with the no-coat that comes pre cut for bead, but for the few times I have played with it, I'm guessing most guys 2 coat it.

Most times we do 3 coat,but sometimes...... depending on the job :whistling2:
 
Thank you for jumping in:yes:

Our DWC would ask us how many coats we put on our bead, we would tell him 3 when working in town, but 2 when working out of town. Then watch his face go red:furious:


Most times we do 3 coat,but sometimes...... depending on the job :whistling2:
You mean 2 1/2 don't ya ? :jester:
 
WHAT about the ripples? ,,not being a a-hole a real question . do you side stripe your bead final coat?
And I'm not being a pretentious cocky prig when I say my bead doesn't have ripples...I might have one or two one-liners in a long soffit, but I keep my strokes short and my trowel flat on the final pass....works like a charm:thumbsup: I find you get more ripples when you try to do longer runs on your wipe. I'd rather brush out a lap than fill ripples
 
And I'm not being a pretentious cocky prig when I say my bead doesn't have ripples...I might have one or two one-liners in a long soffit, but I keep my strokes short and my trowel flat on the final pass....works like a charm:thumbsup: I find you get more ripples when you try to do longer runs on your wipe. I'd rather brush out a lap than fill ripples
I fill ripples ... there or not.. '' no wrong way to do it right'' ALL bead have ripples ,,no matter what bead you use or what tool you use to run them.A home with 400' of bead .. That's a lot of laps to sand out ,,but then those laps don't sand out not after using hot mud. they show after paint. achoo... bless me.
 
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