Was this drywall job done correctly?

APT-CO said:

Ok. Understandable.
i mean the over cut boxes for the outlets is ok/ not the biggest deal. The gaps between the sheets it’s ehh,

ok, understandable. The boxes being over cut is not the biggest deal but I would still like to see a better job considering it’s all new drywall, not a remodel project with existing cut outlets. The gaps between sheets would be a problem for me since it’s in the bathroom you want the best seal against the humidity. The dents and the corner bead with shims??? Never seen that. What’s up with the ceiling sheet that meets the brown paper on the walls? Looks super damaged. Yes he might be a professional but the guy he left doing the job for him definitely isn’t. Overall I would have a few worlds with the contractor and ask for refund or to correct the issues before going any further. Mud, tape and paint can’t fix everything. Start the project the right way and things go smoother for everyone.
Good luck.

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So grateful for the input I am getting here. Thank you to everyone. And now have more questions.

I was advised months ago, to have the final finish for the drywall done after the tile was in but this drywall contractor wanted to be completely finished before the tile started but I got him to agree to do it after the tile and the tile guy just started this morning. I asked the tile guy if I could have the drywall mudded and finished after he finishes the walls but before the cabinets are put in and floor so the cabinets won't be in the way and potentially damaged. I told the tile guy that the drywall contractor told me he only needed one day to do all the taping, mudding and finishing and the tile guy said not possible to do it right in just one day and would be at least 2 days. The tile guy also told me that nearly all the jobs he has done, the drywall is in and taped and jointed with one coat of mud and that they come and do the final coat and touchups after the tile. But the drywall contractor refused to give me that option. It was all or none before the tile.

Questions:
1. Is the this drywall contractor trying to rush the mudding/finishing, too? How long should it take to do it right? (They were here less than a day hanging and it sure shows)

2. Did the poor installation with all the seams (none of the seams are even - all off by 1/8"), gaps, damage and dents, corner bead issues and bad electric cut-outs, increase the labor for the taping and mudding? When we had a general contractor do drywall in another room a few years ago, he used full sheets, had almost no seams and those seams were even, no damage/dents so the taping and mudding was minimal. We were able to seal and prime the new drywall and paint over. It isn't level 5 smooth but it is new drywall smooth and looks great. But, I have no idea how what I have now can be made to look good without a lot of work?

3. Someone above said not everything can be fixed with mud and I would like to know what things I need to request be completely redone. And I pray it can be done after the tile because the tile guy is in there as I type this.

If the board is secure and basically in-plane, the only real consequence of sloppy hanging is more work for the finisher. So, unless you believe he's going to do a subpar job at finishing, then there is no problem yet. What level of finish did you agree on?

If you don't believe he will do a quality finish, then about your only recourse is to negotiate a break in the contract and wish him good luck and hire someone else to finish.
I would advise that you have a polite conversation with whoever shows up to do the finish work as to your expectations for the finished product as agreed to in the contract.
Ask the guy how he is going to fill the gaps, and any other concerns you have and listen to his answers.
You always have the right to end a working relationship with a contractor, but you don't have the right to get your money back or "win" financially. AKA: You can "fire" him, but you still owe him money. Ending a job midstream always includes some grey areas for a financial split: scheduling, materials, what percentage complete etc.
Right now, I don't see anything in the photos that precludes them from delivering a quality finished product, or give you grounds for breach of contract.

That said: if you are convinced that they aren't going to finish the job properly, you should absolutely cut ties and negotiate an end to the contract.

FYI: Here is a possible explanation from his end. (aside from being rude to you, which is just dumb) It's a big company as you say. they make their money at scale, doing whole houses/tracts of houses. This job is not really profitable for them and doesn't really fit in their business model. But takes the job anyway. Sends out the expendable apprentice to hang the job. Apprentice does a predictable job, but that doesn't concern him because he knows the experienced guy he sends out to finish it can fix anything the kid screwed up. Completely fails to consider the effect on morale on the customer from the shitty hanging job because he doesn't normally deal with customers in this situation.

Robert C1 said:

If the board is secure and basically in-plane, the only real consequence of sloppy hanging is more work for the finisher. So, unless you believe he's going to do a subpar job at finishing, then there is no problem yet. What level of finish did you agree on?

If you don't believe he will do a quality finish, then about your only recourse is to negotiate a break in the contract and wish him good luck and hire someone else to finish.
I would advise that you have a polite conversation with whoever shows up to do the finish work as to your expectations for the finished product as agreed to in the contract.
Ask the guy how he is going to fill the gaps, and any other concerns you have and listen to his answers.
You always have the right to end a working relationship with a contractor, but you don't have the right to get your money back or "win" financially. AKA: You can "fire" him, but you still owe him money. Ending a job midstream always includes some grey areas for a financial split: scheduling, materials, what percentage complete etc.
Right now, I don't see anything in the photos that precludes them from delivering a quality finished product, or give you grounds for breach of contract.

That said: if you are convinced that they aren't going to finish the job properly, you should absolutely cut ties and negotiate an end to the contract.

FYI: Here is a possible explanation from his end. (aside from being rude to you, which is just dumb) It's a big company as you say. they make their money at scale, doing whole houses/tracts of houses. This job is not really profitable for them and doesn't really fit in their business model. But takes the job anyway. Sends out the expendable apprentice to hang the job. Apprentice does a predictable job, but that doesn't concern him because he knows the experienced guy he sends out to finish it can fix anything the kid screwed up. Completely fails to consider the effect on morale on the customer from the shitty hanging job because he doesn't normally deal with customers in this situation.

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Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to me with an explanation that I think makes sense regarding who he sent to hang and that the shitty hanging job can be fixed with a good finisher. My goal is not to win financially or to start over with someone else. My goal is just to ensure I get what I am paying for, which is a professional drywall installation and finish so I don't have any issues with any of these seams or damage showing through in the future, or the drywall failing from the moisture in the bathroom because it was not sealed properly or something else that I am, as a novice, not aware.
In regards to the level of finish, he had put in level 5 in the first proposal and when I asked if he would shim where the ceiling was too high (we had crown molding with a over 3/4" gap and getting more crown molding that the tile guy will install) his price went way up (even though it took only 1 hour for them to do this extra step) and I told him that I am happy with level 3 finish, which is what we have in the room that the handyman did if it would lower the price a little and he agreed but I don't know if possible now. And I was saying level 3 based on the assumption that the drywall would have been hung the way it was in our other room without any seams or damage done. All of the other walls in my house are old plaster walls that don't have that ultra level 5 and the level 3 in the other room is plenty of smooth enough because the handyman who hung the drywall did a good job. But, now that this new drywall has been literally butchered, I am not sure what I need to request to ensure I never have any problems with the damage ever showing through. I had a patch on a ceiling that was done about 8 years ago in my kitchen and it was fine for a few years and then the tape started to show through and in my parent's home, drywall nails and seams were visible in some of their walls and this is what I want to avoid. Do I need to tell him he has to do level 4 or 5 now?
So, I would like to go to him politely but armed with information on what should be done to ensure that the damaged paper, seams, dents and gaps , etc. will all be addressed properly when it is finished and that he will send over a really good experienced finisher, no more beginners. Can you tell me if there are any extra steps needed to be done that wouldn't be normally needed if the hanging had been done right?