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5 minute durabond

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#1 ·
I am a drywall contractor out of va. I cover all areas of the drywall spectra. I sub houses out and try and stay busy doing repairs myself. I use five minute gold bond and try and complete everything under 7 boards in two trips, I tape, coat and skim everything twice on the first trip and come back to touch up and check for any shrinking on the second. I just picked up some work from a fire and water restoration company that called me today with a ceiling job they want me to do friday. No problem, but they want me to have it paint ready on friday also. Since this is my first job for them and they can keep me busy I told them I would do it but I am skeptical about the great possibility it will shrink and I want it to look perfect. Does anyone have any pointers on how I can lessen my chances of it shrinking. I am not a fan at all of mesh tape because of its lack of quality verses paper tape but Im thinking that if I meshed the factory joints and taped the butts and angles maybe that would help.
 
#51 ·
You can use mesh tape on all flats using 45 min Easy-sand, run the angles with the same mix and paper tape coating one side as you go. go take a break till it sets. You'll need a blister bush for this step, blister brush all the flats as soon as it sets, this will slick it down and remove stop marks go have lunch! skim all flats with 45 minute easy-sand and coat the other side of the angles, blister brush again. depending on your skill will depend on if you'll have to sand. we do this all the time, up to 25 sheet!
For small jobs, cut the time with 20 minute easy sand
 
#56 ·
You can use mesh tape on all flats using 45 min Easy-sand, run the angles with the same mix and paper tape coating one side as you go. go take a break till it sets. You'll need a blister bush for this step, blister brush all the flats as soon as it sets, this will slick it down and remove stop marks go have lunch! skim all flats with 45 minute easy-sand and coat the other side of the angles, blister brush again. depending on your skill will depend on if you'll have to sand. we do this all the time, up to 25 sheet!
For small jobs, cut the time with 20 minute easy sand
Fast setting ..not fast drying..
I never had much luck with hot mudding a small job .
after paint the tape line would show through[paper] maybe mesh Is the way to go when pushing out a L4 in one trip. :blink:
 
#52 ·
On big jobs I went from a change from all durabond on my tape coat to
1.fix any outlets and cover all outlets on seams with fibafuse (for boxing)I like to go over the outlets ( see my other posts )
2. mesh the seams with hotmud (or fiberfuse with All Purpose)
3. mesh butts then add fibafuse with All Purpose
4. fibafuse all corners with All Purpose
5. nails with light mud

thats my tapecoat :blink:
 
#54 ·
Hey Keithby,

What do you mean by "blister brush"? Is that simialar to a lambswool corner roller for applying mud?

I was talk to do butts first so the end of the tape would be covered by the corner tape at the ceiling and the bevel tape in the middle and the base board on the bottom. So, for me, it is butts, tapers and then angles.
 
#65 ·
try the vario, if used properly you are done in less than 3 hours....first coat is done like second coat, a quick scraping, then a nice polish and your done..ready to paint....no tape required!! and pallets are available thru me....via your local distributor!!
 
#81 ·
the vario does flats, butts, nails, inside corners, and beads....mix up a batch of 45 with clean water, lol!! coat everything as if it was a second coat, then 25-30 min (lunch,snack) later scrape..Then polish everything like a third coat....all it has to do is set..not dry to do that...after maybe 20 minutes you can sand edges...never fish eyes or pinholes....then paint .....all with no tape....in one day....
 
#82 ·
the vario does flats, butts, nails, inside corners, and beads....mix up a batch of 45 with clean water, lol!! coat everything as if it was a second coat, then 25-30 min (lunch,snack) later scrape..Then polish everything like a third coat....all it has to do is set..not dry to do that...after maybe 20 minutes you can sand edges...never fish eyes or pinholes....then paint .....all with no tape....in one day....

I guess I don't trust it enough for the very high end houses we do. I tested some vario out in our garage on some board we have hung on our office bathroom and after I banged on the wall the joint cracked which wouldn't happen if you taped it. I followed all the proper instructions but it didn't seem strong enough to endure an entire house. Also how much does a bag cost? We pay $7.25 for a 50lb box of mud. Like I said when we pay by the board and not by the hour, we don't care if it gets done a day sooner if we have to pay more money in materials that aren't proven. Also I would never just sand the edges.... the material needs to completely dry before sanding.