Review for the vario tapeless mud

alltex

I just used it on 2 different basement jobs,One was a flood job (it has 2 feet removed at the bottom and we patch it in).done many of these ,not having to string tape is a dream come true for my back. Used vario for the first time about 3 months ago,no phone colls yet!

MeatBallDryWall

Can someone post a Mfg's link to this product as I'd LOVE to try it out.

Tim0282

www.edp-inc.net

There ya have it.

rhardman

I was at the wife's dance studio and saw that a halo I had framed and rocked a few years ago settled a bit in the office leaving some cracks through the seams. It buckled some plastic bull nose too. I also installed some sissy girl lighting tubes which run over the same area.

I think I found a perfect use for the vario mud.

I'll get pictures and post them next week.

Tim0282

We used it on an office this week. Shrinks quite a bit. Took three coats to make it smooth. So about the same as using taping.

rhardman

Did you tape the seams? If not, I can get around the lighting posts much easier.

Is there any sign of cracking at all?

Tim0282

We did not tape any of the joints. We "v'd" out the butt joints and ran over the flats with a six inch. Then came back and hit them with a ten inch. They were still really shallow, so we hit them again. They look great. Nice mud to work with. Mixes easy in a pan or with this great mixer this guy sent me to try...

alltex

I,m in a 300 sheeter.I decided ,what the hell.,taped the butts and headers with paper ,then used my 7 inch box and hot pump and boxed the whole thing with vario and no tape on the flats.I bet i saved 5 hrs of tape stringing (i work alone).So if i charge $35 per hr. i saved $175 by skipping the tape on the flats,not to mention the wear and tear on the bazooka and my body.I,v used this system 3 or 4 times now and still no coll backs .Vario mud been very good to me.The only bad thing is it sets in 45 minutes so i had to wash up 3 or 4 times .

Tim0282

I wondered if it would work better with the box. You can crown it a bit and get rid of the shrinkage. That is what I want to do the next time. I think it is good mud. They say you can do angles with it. I don't know... Wish it was a little more available in the area. The closest dealer is over two hours away.

alltex

the flats i boxed hardly shrank ,i ran the 7 inch box on 2 and only wiped down what needed it.

pipercub17

ok now i wanna try it

rebel20

Im in talks with the manufacture now about a 90, 120 or 180 or even 220 I put a post under general discussion on the best setting time let me know what you think. Basically this product can be made to set at any time.

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kgphoto

For patching, I would be more interested in 5 minute and 20 minute mud.

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just used what was left of my batch on a bathroom reno. Turn of the century house saved the walls owner sheetrocked the lid. Owner/realtor had taped one of the angles and the flat. Both pieces had to be removed. We ran all the angles NO TAPE and the flat no tape. Did not skim over it just touched up some minor areas after priming with some drydex. Place looks tight. Also used what was left in my pan to fill a void in entrance way new sheetrock return going into existing rock. Huge gap I did not encounter any shrinkage...angle looks sharp...LOVE THIS STUFF

rebel20

Tim you may have mixed it to thin. One needs to mix it a little thicker than normal mud on the first coat. I have had this also with our tests and found that to much water it will shink quite a bit more than normal.

rebel

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rebel20

For all the testers I am dedicating a new page on our web site so to say free advertising if you have pic's get them to me all of you have my e-Mail. I will post all your comments there good or bad and a link to this thread. If you want a link to your site or your address posted PM me or send me an E-mail stating so. There are also a few who have yet to respond. I will also be fair to those that have not tested. In about two months I will set up a friends page with a link to your site.

Rebel

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rhardman

The "Friends" tab is an excellent idea and one the current "leaders" don't comprehend. I firmly believe that the new leaders of tomorrow (in drywall) are forming long term relationships right now.

Kudo's to your samples Rebel as well as the "Friends" page, they're a great stride forward.

Rick

Tim0282

Thank you, Rebel! Also wondered if I should have just coated real tight the first time over and then fill the reccession. I will try it stiffer next time. I bet that was the main problem.

rebel20

Finally got word back from the manufacture 90 and 120 min are in the lab for testing right now hope to have ready for next shippment which goes out in July


Rebel

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kgphoto

You should put your website in your signature line, (I believe that is allowed) That way it is easy to find your site.