Looking for help testing new tools...

rhardman

We've had to make so many changes to the original pump system that it's become an entirely new technology from where it was 90 days ago. Even as late as last week, we've implemented improvements that require different patent coverage.

This means that we are going to discard the entire "Raptor" product line and opt for the more advanced designs.

I'm also removing the purchasing capabilities from the website for now. I recommend you contact DeAnne at Advance Equipment, Walltools or All-Wall.

I'll be sure to let you know what's going on as we move forward.

Rick

Workaholic

When you coming back to town Rick? I owe you a meal.

Hope all is well.

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rhardman

Thanks for the note 'holic, not sure of the time frame for my next SE trip. Looks like New England is next on the schedule and then Chicago and West Coast soon afterward. After that it's Texas then back to your neighborhood.

I've been making some great contacts.

Yea, dinner was great, thank you for taking the time to meet with me. What do you think of the paddle?

We're making steady progress on everything but until I have something new to say here on DWT, frankly I'm getting tired of hearing myself talk.

I'll address any question someone might have by PM or by contacting me on the website.

And to confirm, I've discontinued sales through our website primarily for 2 reasons. In the volumes we're doing, we can't offer you the best pricing out there. That's better left to Brandon at Walltools or the guys at All-Wall.

Secondly, spending part of our time dealing with the sales (not a huge amount coming in yet) takes away from our R&D focus.




Rick

Workaholic

Well when ever you get back this way give me the heads up and it will be my treat. Hopefully you will be able to have a drink too.

I have used the new paddle a couple times and it is a big difference from the smaller one, I use the smaller one a lot for mixing paint which it does really well.

I understand, I know you are putting your focus on the pump.

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spacklinfool

I am on Long Island and am always seeking new tools to try..Please let me know if any are still available, I would also be interested in doing demo's and selling them..

rhardman

Thank you for the question. We're focusing on other areas right now so we're not sending out any samples.

This has nothing to do with you...but we had a lot of money invested in the samples and very few people followed through with their promises for feedback. We have to be more discretionary with our resources.

Rick

(...Sheesh....how do you send a PM in this new format?)

Philma Crevices

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rhardman

Thank you.

moore

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rhardman

Ohhhh Yeeaaaa!!!!!!!

rhardman

2Buck, Sir Mixalot, Whitey, Darren...and you other guys that have the premium mixing paddle...

I need your advice.

I have some guys wanting to buy the anodized version but I'm having a tough time trying to determine a fair price. Having been a drywaller, naturally I want to price it as if I were buying it. But on the other side of the coin, the thing cost a fortune to make.

Anodized...longer machined aluminum shaft, UHMW self lubricating plastic, pivtoting, Powder coated steel, stainless steel tensioning bolt, easier to clean...

Having used it, what do you think would be a fair price? I don't care what USG or anyone else offers, and I don't care what their pricing is.

I don't see this mixer has having a "competitor."

Thank you,

Rick

Tim0282

Having used it for some time now. I wouldn't want to do without it. It is very valuable. The paddle has been cracked for three or four months and no change in mixing. It out performs all the other mixers I have on the shelf. I am pretty sure I own every one that is made.
Can you make money at 100.00? It is worth that to me.

rhardman

What do you mean cracked?

How did that happen?

Anyone else have that problem?

Want a new blade?

Tim0282

Respectfully, there is a huge difference between the one that DeAnne has and the "real" thing. I have both.
And the pump. Gas is hard to beat.... Adds a ton of power over electricity. Kinda like an electric on demand water heater compared to a gas on demand water heater. (for in floor heat) The BTU's are so much greater than what is gained out of electricity. Same, I think in running a pump. There, I threw in my .02 worth.

rhardman

Ahhhh Tim, I kind of messed up with the thread and you responded before I went back to the cracked issue. To bring everyone up to speed, I was saying that we're having a tough time making the new texture / CFS system compatible with 110v. The goal is to have a texture machine and then adapt the automatic tools you are already using to the pump. That way you have CFS and don't have to pay $10,000.00 for it.

We do have everything working with 220 (probably best for pre-built homes) and gas.

To be fair to DeAnnes version of the mixing paddle, I worked with her (and the guys at Advance Equipment) for a couple of months to provide the best $20.00 mixer on the market. For the price, I think we nailed it. I took the anodized mixer to 2 of the online disty's but they wouldn't touch it. I think All Wall has Deanne's version and Brandon at Walltools is a great supporter of it. By the way...Brandon's ordering 3-Point Creaser wheels...if anyone wants one.

What about that cracked blade Tim?

2buckcanuck

Can't really answer that for you Rhardman, I'm just a taper, not a tool manufacturer like you

But maybe a few ideas......

keep the one model you have, keep the price high and offer a life time warranty on it. (increase the price if you must). Then have other models under it, that may not have the powdered steel, nor the pivoting head, shorter shaft, or what ever it takes. What will sell most guys on it is what the head looks like on it. Right now it has a "hhhhmmmmm that looks interesting" look to it, till they check the price tag.

I do not like the small version at all, the head on it is too tiny. it could give the good mixer a bad name IMO. (but small one is good for mixing paint, not mud) Now the big one is too good, only thing I dont like about it is, leaving it on the job. They see that pretty coloured handle, and steal it.

I also know you like the idea of the head being able to pivot, it may serve a purpose. But I was trying to tighten it last week so it would not pivot. (did not have proper tools on me so....) I could be wrong, but for mixing mud, I find it's nice when you can tilt the mixer, you can draw water into your mix faster. Something I will experiment with next week,,,,, let you know.

Also, I hope your marketing to other trades too, like maybe tile guys, stucco workers, cement guys etc,,,,, more market share

Not trying to be critical or nothing, I love that mixer

Now back to my game of Civ 5, those barbaric kiwi's are invading again, trying to steal my sheep,,,,,,,, later

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Tim0282

I'll have to take a picture of it for you. It is cracked on both sides of the bolt. Not a big deal. Just wear. It has mixed two semi loads of mud. I'd say that is a pretty amazing mixer!

Tim0282

But, 2 Buck, you can tilt it back and draw the water down. Even with it pivoting. It just doesn't seem like you should be able to. But I feel like it does.

2buckcanuck

You and me can But my stupid newb can't

Mud and water every where

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Tim0282

Good one 2!!