Fibafuse Thoughts/views???

2buckcanuck

nice to see you two are figh.........talking again

cazna

We are mates me and mudstar, mates dont fight..........Much

Mudstar

I'm not sure about that cazna I won't know if it goes wrong in a house I tape because I won't even use it.

Paper tape works with taping mud and you can't peal it off the wall period, so why would I use fibertape or what ever its called. After all if you put a mile of tape on the wall each and every week you could go on pretty good vacation using paper on the saving compared to this fiber stuff. Don't you need a vacation cazna and when your on vacation you won't have to worrry if paper worked or not.

You might see me somewhere on a club med trippy with all the drinks to make it trippy too.

JS

cazna

It cost me $15 extra to use fibafuse instead of papertape for the flats on this house?? 5 rolls at $8 roll, paper is $5 roll = $15 more for an easier, stronger, better drying tape. That $15 is easly made up with ease of wiping down, and much flatter butts.

Dam you must go on some cheap vacations??

Your right about club trippy, is that your favourite place?? $15 would get you a puff then its club trippy here we come

Mudstar

If I had to paid $5 per roll caz I'd quit because your right I might only be able to go to the cottage instead.

I was talking club med too caz not a jump in the car to see the country side.

2buckcanuck

I think you both need a vacation ...........together lol
your going to think I keep defending mudstar but,what he's saying is "If it ain't broke don't fix it"Plus odds are,mudstar piece works like me for big company,and stuff on the side too,In conversations with my boss ,he has lost houses by being 10 or 20 bucks higher than the other guy,we talked fibre fuse,said his average bid would increase by $60,would start losing jobs,only his high end clientele maybe willing to use it
business is business ,let's look at the ford motor company,it was just not the assembly line that made his product affordable,he used the cheapest products that would work,and one colour "black" and paid his workers a fair price ,so they could buy a car too,which expands his market (not like that these days)
so production,low cost,expanding market,ok product,profit...
construction now a days, is like building a Russian Lada with slave labour,then selling it like it's a Rolls Royce.
may a Yank come on here and explain capitalism ,rather than a commie Canuck

cazna

Fair enough, Good saying that, If its not broke dont fix it, So is K.I.S.S, Keep it simple stupied.

I really would love to spend a few days working with you guys, just to see how it is with you, must be a tough economic climate you have to miss out on work with small amounts like that, Its not really an issue for me but im in residential homes working direct with homeowners that just want a top job, so thats what i give them, i average 3-4 months work ahead booked up, can be 6 months ahead, all word of mouth so a few bucks for a few extras on materials is no issue to me, Keeps things interesting.

Im just pointing out how i have found a product, thats all, I really dont understand how someone can give such a strong opinion yet wont even try it??? talk about narrow minded, its amazing to me.

2buckcanuck

yeah ,I dont like dealing with home owners,(and I half to tomorrow)they ask too many questions,what time you starting,when you going to be done etc......plus you half to be nice to them...........that sucks.
new construction a whole different ball game

fenez

Home owners pay better and faster and fibafuse leaves the flattest butts ever which saves time which increases profits. I buy it at sherwin williams and its 3.99 a roll. I only use it on butts... it is the best tape for headers and butts.

cazna

I had to remove some board today that i taped on monday for the plumber to get some access, great i thought, good chance to really get some force on to the fibafuse and see how much it can handle.

Well its dam tough stuff alright, unscrewed the screws around the edge and pulled up the board, which broke at the glue spots but got a really good 90degree lever at the fibafused taped seem, amazing stuff, even at a 90degree it still didnt crack apart or let go so i figured one good pull and it will rip to fuse out of the top bevel.............. it didnt.......... it still wouldnt let go..........i popped out all the screws and had the bottom of the top sheet busted out from the wall as well.....oops.
So then put one hand on the bottom of the top sheet so i didnt ruin it any further and pulled it from the join with the other hand on the bottom sheet, by this time i asked the homeowner to help me rip it off as well, so the two of us then rippied it free, most of the fuse stayed with the peice we pulled off, it kinda halfed it self, some stayed behind in the join and some came with the sheet we pulled off, it still did not come apart at the centre of the tape, no way is paper tape as strong as that, and no mud fell free or crumpled out of the fuse, Dam fine product Tom, Great work from you and your team developing fibafuse, very impressive indeed

Mudstar

Its funny after all this post on this site you have not figured out how to do the job yet or know your tools and besides that wheres you brain?

cazna

You really do post some completely irrelevant nonsence mudstar???
I have called you a pompous arse prick before and your posts like this just keep proving me totally correct with that statement,

Honestly, Were is YOUR brain at mate, whats the point of it????
I think you just get off being a W**K*R.

Hey 2buck, can you go around to to mudstars place and tell him to get get his hand off it, I think one hand is on the keyboard and the other is on his tiny tool?????


Oh quick nathen lock the forum lock the forum love mudstar.

Capt-sheetrock

In the words of the King,,,, "can't we all just git along???"

Ahh, I think that was Rodney King tho, on second thought

Kiwiman

DING DING!!! LLLLLets get ready to Rumble!!!!

Tim0282

Canza, do you use it in a bazooka? Doesn't look like it would work so good in a bazooka. Just saying this would be a huge drawback for me. The product sounds great otherwise.

proficient Mudder

I would think it would be very hard to use this on a piece work job as some negatives could be alot of time spent.
I would have to use it in a bazooka to save time and with the tapes design I would think it would be hard for it to be fed into the mud without tearing. I would also think that with blocking corners and pulling in the flats to the angles that a sharp drywall knife would keep tearing into it, unless you take extra precautions. If any of this would be a problem and having the price difference on the tape versus the many paper rolls I would use in a Year. I just don't think that it would work for me, but sounds like a good product for a small remodel, additions or patch work.

Bill

Tim0282

Just don't think it would work in the bazooka. And that is the best way to make money with time, speed and quality. Don't see the advantages out wiegh the disadvantages.

cazna

Hi Tim

Yes i do run it through my bazooka and it seems fine, ok its not as ridged as paper but i had no trouble feeding it through, didnt change the gooser.

Im not using it for the corners, im using it on the flats/butts, im still on the paper for corners as paper is more suited, as you have heard we are a quake prone country so anything that gives some extra strength is a help.

Im not a big volume taper as most of you guys maybe as my work is new homes and renovations etc, plus some painting so it may not suit you depending on cost, seems like tight pricing for you guys so every doller counts, but hey, get a roll and give it a go, im finding it great.

One thing i have found helpful is say on a smaller job or hotmuds or on a butt seam, instead of wiping it down with a knife get yourself a small paint roller, those 75mm wide by 50mm high ones, with a 5mm nap mohiar or foam sleeve and roll the fuse down with that then wipe a coat over it, it really gets the fuse pushed back well and makes for a very flat butt seam.
And a wallpaper seam roller for those small hard to get butt seams, you can even roll accross it and it really stays put, not like paper that can skid around on you.

DSJOHN

I remember when No-Coat came out,I thought what a home owner pos---then I used some on a long slope of about 15degrees and was sold.I used fiba-fuse after MikeNH told me about it and I dont think I,ll tape an entire house out but it works great on patches and butts and flats,especially small jobs---try it you,ll be sold!!!!!FYI Ive been taping for 31yrs and seen all things come and go,,I,m sold on this product as I am on paperfaced metal,No-coat[450] vinyl arch bead ,ez sand and PC sander.

Kiwiman

Just a bit of useless information...Our house got a good shake-up from an earthquake the other day, and I mean a "really" good shake (mag 7.1 50km away). I used 3 different tapes in our house and there's no cracks at all...Paper, Mesh, and Fibafuse. I also checked up on some past jobs and no problems at all, it actually would have been good to see some tapes fail just for comparison.