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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
capt. I tried fibafuse, it is the same exact install and finish as conventional taping there are no skipped steps. I believe the only difference is that it leaves flatter seams and butts.
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
Im not skipping nothing and im no mesh tape user, if you got a roll and tryed it capt you might find it ok.
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
i found i was getting a much flatter butt joint than usual.
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Im about to really test it, I have been doing some villaboard eves on a new house which states papertape with villaboard plaster, well the house is still settling and they are compacting the drive with big machine rollers and shaking the house and some of the eve joins have cracked (None inside thankfully) So what options do i have now?? Paper tape them again?? Im going to try the fibafuse and see if it works?? wish me luck
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Hi Tom just wondering if a roller would work with the fuse?
When you run it thru a bazooka do you still run it with one wheel touching the wall or can it run two wheels?? havent tryed it yet but im braving up to do the flats, butts in the next house. Last edited by cazna; 08-04-2010 at 04:32 PM. |
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
Cazna, I haven't tried a roller method using FibaFuse but I think its a good idea. Using a roller will easily embed it into the mud. I'm thinking more like a firm foam roller - something that will not absorb too much mud but will press the tape against the board.
Regarding the bazooka wheels, you can run it with two wheels. Are you concerned there will be too much drag on the tape with two wheels? Not sure if you saw it yet but check out the fibafuse video on youtube... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDG8tVq7CsM - go to the 5:00 min mark on the video - it shows an auto-taper in action.
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Ok, Thanks.
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
2bucks 2cents worth !
-if the tape sits that much tighter to the butts ,are you going to start making your butts not as wide as you use to, I doubt it. -hand feed tape throw bazooka without pin,thats a broken bazookie to me,loss of speed,damn thing should never touch the ground if you know how to run one right. -As capt sheetrock stated ,the tape maybe water resistant,but the mud your using isn't . -if your looking for tape to bond better,well here's a really really dumb thought [ or I'm a genius ]guys throw soap in their mud,why not throw some extra GLUE in your mud. -mudstar,capt sheetrock,what type of glue do they put in mud ? -cazna ,got a experiment for you to try
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
I watched the video,, and I still don't see where its an improvement. Like 2buck said,,, the tape may be mold resistantant, but the mud and drywall is not. If it won't feed with a gooser, bazooka operatorers will never use it. That being said, where does this product improve over paper tape?? Why are people always looking for a way to re-place paper tape instead of just learning how to use it???
Maybe I'm missing something here, but then again, I know how to use paper tape. |
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There will never be a replacement to paper that will work the same period. Glass does not absorb, so that being said should be a no brainer.............
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
Its the flintstones were the flintstones, a modern stoneage family.
Thats the input from Fred Barney and Bam Bam Dear Lord Please keep granting me the wisdom to look ahead and try new things as they happen, And dont allow the foolishness of discounting new ideas and products without even trying them creep up on me in my old age. And allow me to add them to my kit to aid me in whatever roads may lie ahead to keep me on top of competition and make life as interesting and easy as possable. Amen This stuff does have some good points boys, dont try it then, your loss. Oh im such a pompous arse, If you cant beat em i might as well join em. ![]() Way you go Mudstar, copy paste and contradict...........again. We could have been friends you and me.
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
The bazooka and boxes are a proven system along with paper tape. It is established with no negative issues to contend with. A drywall guy is risking credibility with his GC and to his reputation if he goes too far out on a limb just to try something new. Even if it's advantages are there, unless there is an incredible increase in productivity, it's not worth the potential pain. Most guys will wait until someone else proves it (i.e. takes the risk) before they will try.
It's unfortunate (IMO) because this causes the technology of the entire industry to sit stagnant. DWT offers the greatest opportunity to improve the tools and products for the industry but unfortunately everyone is focused on finding business right now. There doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in trying something new. I say good for St. Gobain for offering FibaFuse. They have invested a lot of money into something they believe has merit. It should be worth a try. I think there is room for improvement in the tape but how will they make it better unless we physically try* it an then tell them what we think based on actual experience? That being said...an improvement needs a lower purchase price than what they are currently buying and not just offer a production advantage or improvement in quality. Otherwise trying to convince people to buy it will be much more difficult. It's the nature of this particular beast. (*I agree with the Capt. The FibaFuse tape will not be accepted as a standard unless they improve it's ability to be advanced through a standard bazooka. )
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct or more uncertain of success than to take a lead in the introduction of new things, because the innovation has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions and only luke-warm defenders in those who may do well under the new.
Machiavelli While I think the product has it's uses and is relatively good... it isn't a time saver which is the main reason for any taper to try something new in the first place, with that being said.... I don't for a second believe that taping will lay stagnate forever I am certain that there will be major advancement at some point, for anyone to say that the finishing trade and it's products have advanced as far as it will go is just plain ignorant, ask the plasterers that said drywall was crap and would never catch on or the rockers that used to have to nail everything off. |
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VERY, Very well put sir, my hat comes off to you fenez.
Much respect for attitides such as this, |
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Just quoting Machiavelli, but thanks for the thumbs up it's appreciated
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Re: Fibafuse Thoughts/views???
fenez you are right
to me the tools have hit their apex,just a few mods here and there,few improvements here and there 1.0,1.1 ,1.2 etc..... Where the major change has to come from is the material,maybe fibrefuse a small stepping stone to that.first design a needle/pin that will feed the fibrefuse through a bazooka.then a mud that drys 10x faster,(not sets but dries).design a type of drywall that forces the mud to dry even faster.It's the material that needs to change not the tools,we all technically still use plaster tools even though the material has changed so...... only place I might try fibrefuse is in a basement ,and only on the flats,just because it sounds like you can coat it the same day.might cut me down to 3 trips instead of 4.BUT that paper bead might hold me up........now they got to invent fibrefuse corner bead....and that faster drying mud........ necessity is the mother of invention.......where's a greedy capitalist when you need one ........hey yanks
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