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Old 01-30-2008, 11:59 AM   #21
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My company has 7 full time employees all well paid,none in cash they all pay taxes,and receive medical insurance.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

How do i go about gettin Medical for me and my partner? We would like to have it seenin has we both have kids on the way.

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Old 01-30-2008, 04:48 PM   #22
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Don't you live in Canada?
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:25 PM   #23
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Most of the jobs i do are reno and additions. My contractors would rather i deal with the home owners then illeagals they don't know. I'm doing this 20 years now and have earned that repect. My 1st goal is to make a homeowner and the contractor comfortable. That gives everyone involved a good reputation. Most illeagles work condos or townhouses i never see them in residential. How do you garentee fly by night work. If guys run a price matters operation i find they disapear fairly quickly. It also hurts there reputation. I might suggest talking to other trades espeicaly painters a lot of the work i have gotten is from painters,plumbers and electricians. You would be surprized how many times they recommend me. Also forget the illeagals they can't stop you. Any work they get you don't want. You can't afford it. Once again good luck.
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:35 PM   #24
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How do i go about gettin Medical for me and my partner? We would like to have it seenin has we both have kids on the way.[/quote]


Unfortunately its not cheap, sometimes the plans change do to prices. The price is different depending on your circumstance. Meaning single,you and spouse or family. Right now we use Aetna (small group). Co pays vary according to plan. But they might not cover pregnacy as a pre existing condition. But i could be wrong. Anyway good luck and congratulations.
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Using illegals has become the trend. a # of years ago the company I worked for decided to start using them. As a foreman I was given a translating book and told to learn it. I told them to translate this and left. I took all the addresses of the illegals as well as there phone numbers . They all lived in 3 houses rented by the same guy.There was like 75 of them . I had names and all the info. Turned it all over to the INS. They all still live there and all still take 1000's of sheets a week a way from us americans. And nobody in government cares. ! call and those guys would have all showed up at whatever job the ins wanted them at. But they just are not interested.
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Unfortunately its not cheap, sometimes the plans change do to prices. The price is different depending on your circumstance. Meaning single,you and spouse or family. Right now we use Aetna (small group). Co pays vary according to plan. But they might not cover pregnacy as a pre existing condition. But i could be wrong. Anyway good luck and congratulations.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thanks............. I am at a Chev dealership full time employee right now i have insurance with Chambers of Commerve right now! So i was thinking of calling them and say if i leave my current place of employement and wanted to keep my same coverage so what can you do for me LOL.
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Im In San Jose Calif, Things Are A Little Slow But Im Gettin By, Im Always Thankful For That...
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:07 PM   #28
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So i was thinking of calling them and say if i leave my current place of employement and wanted to keep my same coverage so what can you do for me LOL.[/quote]


You can do that through cobra. Of course you would have to pay for it but you can keep the insurance up to a year after you leave. You may want to look in to it.
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I think it's funny everyone is worried about "The Illegals" they help keep the economy going to they eat, buy cars, etc. People say they don't pay taxes, well if you pay them hourly they pay taxes, or your not doing your job with the payroll taxes. So you sub them out as sub-contractors say you 1099 them $100,000, by the time they take their deductions there not paying any taxes anyway. I sub allot of work out to a women that was born in Mexico and is now a U S citizen. I pay her the same money per sq ft as any one else. In return they don't complain about work, they'll work the weekends, and never complain about what I'm pay them. The "White person" which I'm a Gringo, complain about everything and you can't pay them enough money because there never happy. Do what I did open up a business in Mexico. This is just my opinion on the subject, because I hear people complain about it all the time, but no one will lower there prices to compete. Please don't take my comments the wrong way as much as I think the "illegals" shouldn't buy jobs, they do, there's always someone willing to do the job cheaper and someone is will to hire them.
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I sub allot of work out to a women that was born in Mexico and is now a U S citizen. I pay her the same money per sq ft as any one else.
But are you paying everyone else what should be 2008 wages or 1988 wages?I can see right through you. Your one of those guys who cuts one check to one legal,then trhey turn around and pay 20 of their illegal buddies while you sit back and make a big profit off of them.It's going on all over the country.
As far as lowering prices go,just how low can a guy go and still survive?The illigals come in at 1/2 price, do crap work, no insurance and the builders just turn their head and let it go so they can make more profit.
I'm going to close now before I tell you what I'm really thinking.
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Respect the law. This is illeagel imigration. Key word illeagal. Come here leagaly and respect the law like everyone else. Most illeagals don't compete onthe the same field. They don't pay liabilty,workmans comp or minimum wage. This is the issue. My thing is make them do things leagaly and make them leagal. If you do that then we can see if they truly compete. If they do then they earn it. Otherwise their just cut throat labor. Buy the way i have no problem will the people who respect our laws and come here leagaly they earned their shot.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:44 PM   #32
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Is there a national going rate, no. So are my prices 2008 what are the 2008 prices?I am busy keeping my crews going. I adjust my price to get the work from Texas to Washington there all different prices. I get dozens of calls a day with people looking for work so I guess my pay is fine. I made more money per job in 1988 than I have in the past 10 years. Yes there all legal US citizens they where born in Mexico, they all own a houses, cars, boats too. I know people that have some illegals working they do excellent work have ins. etc. he pays them the same as anyone else. I know an illegal hanging crew they grossed about $150k 2 years ago, I talked to them and sent them
to my account she prepared their taxes, they owed like $15,000. They mailed a check to the IRS and the state, 2 months later they got both checks back saying you are not legal to work in the US, you must file for citizenship. Anyway you look at it you have to compete with everyone, not just the "illegals" price makes the difference in this business, I do quality work at a cheap price, I just have to do more of it and diversify into other things, that's all.
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Anyway you look at it you have to compete with everyone, not just the "illegals" price makes the difference in this business, I do quality work at a cheap price, I just have to do more of it and diversify into other things, that's all.

And that is why you are part of the problem and not part of the solution. you want to drive the labor you pay down to fast food service prices so you make more profit. That is pathetic.
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West Chester PA, Things are a little slow but the kids are clothed,fead and the mortgage is paid I'm happy.
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I think it's funny everyone is worried about "The Illegals" they help keep the economy going to they eat, buy cars, etc. People say they don't pay taxes, well if you pay them hourly they pay taxes, or your not doing your job with the payroll taxes.
elkhutr, How do you file a 1099, when an Illegal has no SSN?
How do you put them on payroll if they have no SSN?
How you cover an employee w/ Worker's Comp. without a SSN?
They are not in the system.
They pay nothing.
You have never run payroll.
If you pay to a false SSN, the money comes back.
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All I need for a 1099 is a EIN # and a address to mail it too.
I don't hire non-US citizens I can't afford the risk. I just hear things. Like they will use one guys SSN, if you think about it say 5 people use his SSN, they make a total of $100k a year, they file there taxes there going to pay taxes one all 5 and pay comp, and payroll taxes...And no I dont run the payroll my account and secretary do that for me.
Also I have a fairly large and diversified company, I get materials and labor cheaper if that makes me part of the problem, so be it. I worked hard to get here.
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I tend to agree with Butcherman, quality work will pay off in the long run. Most of my work is spray texturing and We Are The Best! Only three of us, I'm sure that this helps, I'm constantly dishing off work to others. I know that there is a lot of "take a cut for 2008" going on out there right now but I had only one company try that with me. I said no, we're still doing their spraying.
Patience, patience, patience. Several tapers I know are working for companies that cut their pay so low that they lost their quality workers. These companies are now laying off additional employees because quess what - you get no referrals from a "cut rate" job and an angry customer!
Good Luck
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I'm in Massachusetts
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>> I think it's funny everyone is worried about "The Illegals"

So here is our resident appologist.

I'm pretty sure he can come up with all kinds of reasons why we "need" illegal immigrants.
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