Whitey97

alright... another update.

I got a call tonight from the owner, who I guess the builder answers too.

He ****ed me around on price, and more or less won, but I'm getting money at 11am tomorrow.


does 280 12' sheets, knockdown, tray ceiling in the master, massive amount of bead, many 120*, 3 boxes of straight-flex, and 30 boxes of mud. $5300 for the rocking and taping sound a little Fuk'd? including materials? I told him to keep his work.

He told me he had someone that would do them for that, they can have it. I don't play that game.

Darren@Partners

.40? You didn't buy the board too, did you? I'd be livid and lawyer up. That is pretty f****d up right there.

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Whitey97

No, thankfully he bought the board.

Keep in mind though, these are the people that bitched at me when the painter f'd up the ceiling.

muddymen

Ya I'll tell you everyone blames everyone before them...the framers blame the arcitect, the hangers blame the framers, the finishers blame the hangers, and the painters blame the finishers...ect. So who is really to blame? How about the guy that stops giving a f**k thats who!

A+ Texture LLC

Well was the ceiling fixed or not?? How did it look after doing it yourself. If it was fine and they have no justifiable reason then I'd say court.

Darren@Partners

Still if he bought the board, that .40 included you repainting? Man, that's low even in our market. This the same guy that's been giving so much work of late?

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A+ Texture LLC

I just re-read your post about they have somebody for that price blah blah blah. Flick them a quarter tell'em to call the psychic friends network and ask them if they seen this comin. Then yell in their face "GO FU** YOURSELF" I'll bet they didn't.

MudMonkey

So who was paying you? The HO? Because here in Calgary when someone starts ****ing me around on payment I go and put a lean on their house. As soon as the bank calls them I get a check.

Whitey97

Honestly the whole thing is confusing but I'll try and explain it.

The builder was about to go under as they were paying there subs too much, I guess.

So the realitor became involved and wanted to become Johnny big shot.

He pays all the bills, buys all the materials, deals with the subs. I'm not really sure why the builder even has anything to do with it. I think she caught the realitor guy in bed with someone else. I dunno..... but his whole motto is, if you don't want to work for this rate, I'll find someone else who will, it's a slow market and you have to do this. Very manipulative f*cker.

The ceiling (only one to prove my point) looked mint when I was done. So the painters once again sprayed a top coat paint over it (still no pva as I requested) and the rest of them look like butt.

I told him today when I got my check, or half of it, being the garage wasn't finished as it just had the floor put in a week ago, after this he can go f*ck himself. I don't want his sh*t anymore if this is the stuff I have to deal with. He then told me he's never had anyone whine so much. I just shook my head and cashed the check with my finger in the air. Oh, and he jewed me down another 400. So now I only get 5200 when I fire tape the garage, as I just finished rocking it tonight.

Darren@Partners

I certainly hope you left a paper sack full off butt pie in the wall for the pr***.

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Whitey97

I know where he lives.......

eastex1963

Hey Whitey, I feel your pain.....After reading this post carefully, I think the key word here is SHE....I walked off from a builder/Realtor about a year ago after 5 years and 140 houses. I'd had enough. You'd think that after building that many houses these people would have a clue..not her. Couldn't tell her that...NO...not Miss Iknowitall, I've been doing this 5 years!! Well, I told her that just because someone has been "doing" this 5 years doesn't mean they have a clue.....she spent most her time shopping online with her female assistant. Didn't leave the office. The subs, literally, had to check on the jobs, order materials, and tell the other subs when they could come in and start.....pitiful. Again, I'm sure there are women out there that do a helluva job as GC's. But, not this one.

Good luck buddy,
David

Darren@Partners

Guess he'll be on the "halloween" list, eh?

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A+ Texture LLC

I don't know if i could put it off that long. All I did was read the story and I'm a little pissed off. I guess because I relate. I try as best I can to learn from these experiences and be sure to not let it happen twice.

Whitey97

A+, It won't happen again. I finished fire taping his garage tonight, after being shorted rock, I went and got a peice to finish and patched in around the garage door just to finish the beast, as the owner made me sign an agreement as to have it finished by the 22nd. Come hell or high water, I was meeting that date.

Darren, Who said anything about Halloween? There's a reason Everything of mine is routed through my PO Box. Can you say after the check clears?

David, You've done work for this f'd up outfit too? Holy sh!t, it's the same thing!?!?! except the office girl, is her two daughters. Enough said.



And can I add. The painter came up to me today when I was putzn' around there today, he told me that all of my walls are flashing too. I told him, "what can I do to make you happy?" he says "well, there's nothing you can do" I then replied, "well get the f$&% out of my face then. Aren't you glad that you primed the entire house in the CHB" (that SW had sampled them, which they had never used prior) I don't give a f' if that house sells or get's struck by lightning tomorrow. I have pics that show I'm done. F' them!

Darren@Partners

I would, bare minimum, go see his/her banker once the check clears and be very diplomatic, plead your case. Bankers aren't wanting to hear stories like this, but it'll $#it in their Cheerios. Don't know what you had to sign, but I'd go after the builder in small claims court. Even if you only get a $3500 judgement, it'll make the paper, and buyers read the paper. And you've got 4+ months to plot a sweet prank, too.

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silverstilts

Had a similar experience back about 4 years ago only the paint flashed through knock-down. I don't know why perhaps it was like a wind tunnel without the doors installed yet and it was very hot out when the painter painted it , it was weird they used pva primer but every seam showed butts and flats . Of coarse it was in the vaulted living room , vaulted kitchen , and vaulted porch area. I re-masked all the freshly painted walls with the trim already in and skimmed out the whole thing. the home owner insisted that he wanted the guy that did the house next door to do the work , which was the way it was suppose to look . I told him that would be me , the dumb ass said no it wasn't I was there when they textured the ceilings , back and forth we argued , the guy had a brain meltdown or something . He even bitched to the GC to have him hire someone else to do the work but the GC stood up for me. The skim coat didn't stop there I ended up doing two other bedrooms also. I ended up repainting myself to make sure things were done right , the only problem was where i pulled down my masking some of the fresh paint came down with it off the walls so there was some more patching , and then of coarse a little back charge of repainting that , thank god the painter did some cash work for me. I really feel for you whitey going the extra distance to make thing right only to take it in the shorts on the money. We have all been there once or twice and not much you can do about it except make sure that word gets out how this contractor treats his subs... I myself have probably ruin the reputation of a couple of contractors in my area because of there devious & crooked work practices to the point that they no longer can get any decent jobs around here any longer. Payback is a Bitch , always ways to get even ! The one thing I was able to do on this respray was the home owner decided on bull-nose which i was able to up charge , and believe me I did that and then some , more than double what it should have been for all the headaches.

Whitey97

I have my ways of getting even. I always do, karma's a bitch!

Stilts, we need to get together next round I'm at my cabin and b's stories, I think it would be a blast. I'll be at my cabin for the 4th, you open?

A+ Texture LLC

Sounds like a "bromance" in the works.

Whitey97

we'll see..........