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Old 07-23-2011, 02:26 PM   #31
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Thx. Here is the situation. Been class 5'd with trowel, sanded with light, primed & then when sunlight cAme in, it sucked. It has been rolled with no change and again coated. Sunlight still picks up all the flashing. In a house where all trades are overlapping since day one. Losing my mind. Would like to spray on but too much millwork around. Any suggestions? Thx

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Thx. Here is the situation. Been class 5'd with trowel, sanded with light, primed & then when sunlight cAme in, it sucked. It has been rolled with no change and again coated. Sunlight still picks up all the flashing. In a house where all trades are overlapping since day one. Losing my mind. Would like to spray on but too much millwork around. Any suggestions? Thx
either poor quality in products...or poor quality in craftsmanship...that what it boils down to ..mask off everything good and spray...some guys can never achive a good level 5...and some guys.l4 looks level 5
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thanks, the problem has been too many tapers overlapping each others work and that never works
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We have been spraying Never/Miss Final coat. It is amazing stuff.
Completely takes care of the flashing. Spray with a Titan 1200SF. Mix the mud between box and angle mud. Sprays like a dream.
Don't sand it or touch it after spraying. Lays down very nice!
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We have been spraying Never/Miss Final coat. It is amazing stuff.
Completely takes care of the flashing. Spray with a Titan 1200SF. Mix the mud between box and angle mud. Sprays like a dream.
Don't sand it or touch it after spraying. Lays down very nice!
Thanks...im gonna order some up...sucks nobody stocks it around here..I got a new mark 4
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my boss is using level 5 coat by hamilton in a 5 gallon pail. is this a product you mix with the mud and then spray on?

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my boss is using level 5 coat by hamilton in a 5 gallon pail. is this a product you mix with the mud and then spray on?
No. You probably won't want to mix this with mud. I've tried that sort of thing. Doesn't work very good.
Use Never/Miss Final Coat to mix with the mud.

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With all due respect to all the old schoolers, I think level 5 is a waste of time. I paint my own jobs and have never been called back to fix a butt joint cuz it's flashing after the primer? How many of you guys prime your own jobs and still see imperfections, flashing? There is a simple solution to all that so called "flashing"... I've seen it at other jobs that I had to go fix.....
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With all due respect to all the old schoolers, I think level 5 is a waste of time. I paint my own jobs and have never been called back to fix a butt joint cuz it's flashing after the primer? How many of you guys prime your own jobs and still see imperfections, flashing? There is a simple solution to all that so called "flashing"... I've seen it at other jobs that I had to go fix.....
Actually, I think most of the old schoolers would agree with you

But one reason your having no problems is because your doing your own painting, meaning your doing it right.Some painters think mixing all their left over flat paint makes for a good primer, will be one point ill make. I don't see no need to do a whole house in level 5, maybe on the rare occasion where theres critical lighting. But a proper level 4 tape job and a PROFESSIONAL painter should be good enough.

But in commercial there is a need some times, say like a dentist's room, they need the best lighting possible, so their looking for high gloss walls and something that is washable. So level 5 is the best solution in those cases.

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Actually, I think most of the old schoolers would agree with you

But one reason your having no problems is because your doing your own painting, meaning your doing it right.Some painters think mixing all their left over flat paint makes for a good primer, will be one point ill make. I don't see no need to do a whole house in level 5, maybe on the rare occasion where theres critical lighting. But a proper level 4 tape job and a PROFESSIONAL painter should be good enough.

But in commercial there is a need some times, say like a dentist's room, they need the best lighting possible, so their looking for high gloss walls and something that is washable. So level 5 is the best solution in those cases.

Just my 2bucks worth
your right. Alot of painters do mix their leftover but I would never unless it's a custom color. Flat paint is all you need, for example... Today I finished bout 50 sheets. Sanded, and sprayed with my sprayer. Used sherwin-Williams CHB flat for ceilings. Used it as a primer as well and man was the homeowner pleased, he was trying to have me use new drywall primer from HD but when I explained to him about why CHB was better he saw the difference. He is in the trades as well and knows a thing or 2 about butt joints, flashing, etc. Going to paint the colors they chose and will take pics and post them on here before and after. Oh yeah...commercial is another story but your right on that one 2buck....ur the man!

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