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Old 05-24-2008, 02:37 PM   #1
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Ok this one may be for the hanging drywall section but the end result affects the finisher so here goes...

There's a few minor differences in the way we finish drywall here in the UK and North America. Infact, there's probably variations on the differences between states and countries in North America too - One major difference that I've noticed is the way the drywall is hung.

Here in the UK, the drywall is hung on its end (see photo below). This means we don't have any butt joints on the walls on a standard 8" ceiling. The way I see it is, no butts on walls has to be a good thing. I can also see the other side of the coin - On its edge means less joints on the wall.

Anyone care to comment on the pros and cons?

The pic below isn't a good example of workmanship (from the taper or the hanger) but it's all I can could find on the net for an example:
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:35 PM   #2
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now that my buddy terry has tooled you up you may want to change your taping/coating practices verticle is alot more work taping coating and sanding what lengths of wallboard do you have access to in your area?
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Boards are 2.4m X 1.2m - 8ft x 4ft. 10ft ones can be had but they're not usually stocked and special order. I rarely see the 10ft ones. Almost all new build properties are 2.4m high ceilings in this area and even if they're higher, they mostly just butt join some board for the difference.

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Vertical (which we call Standups) is nice but the studs rarely fall on center or are of such poor quality that the joint 'ridges' up and is impossible to hide. Our most common size sheet is 4'x12' but easily had are also 14' and 16' sheets which eliminate butt joints(and also separates the hangers from the weekenders). 9 ft ceilings are common now and you can get 54" sheets which eliminates the rip. The down side is for a crew of 2 these sizes tend to wear you out FAST. Anyone know where to get good replacement elbows?
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the best part of stand-up is the fact that its easier for one man to hang.....
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after having a revolving door for helpers over 16 years I have to agree to that !
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Stand-ups are the best- We frame it at 16" or 24" on the center, and make sure. IF the studs don't fall in place, add another stud while hanging. The joints are factory to factory always, if theres any cuts, there in the angles. We have no butts, quicker to take, really quicker to run the box down, and its much faster. However, stand-ups are only in commercial jobs out here, in Florida. Residental jobs are horizontal.
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what is the best way to finish a basement? vapor barrier then nail 2x4s flat to wall with styrofoam in between or 2x4 metal studs with insulation batts in between?
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Vertical (which we call Standups) is nice but the studs rarely fall on center or are of such poor quality that the joint 'ridges' up and is impossible to hide. Our most common size sheet is 4'x12' but easily had are also 14' and 16' sheets which eliminate butt joints(and also separates the hangers from the weekenders). 9 ft ceilings are common now and you can get 54" sheets which eliminates the rip. The down side is for a crew of 2 these sizes tend to wear you out FAST. Anyone know where to get good replacement elbows?
yea, i love the 54" board.......but seriously man, my hangers hate it hahaha.

its funny, because i got a commercial 9' job right now that requires 5/8"

these two hangers arent that happy right now.....at least its just walls though, and t-bar clngs.
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Always horizontal here. Butt joints arn't a problem to finish, there is less joints than with stand up's, and with horizontal the board covers over 9 studs for a 12' and vertically it only covers over three which two of are only on 3/4" of the stud. So the horizontal ties more of the wall studs together making it a better constructed wall.
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