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Old 09-19-2011, 03:04 PM   #1
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Has anyone lot's of experience with spraying level 5 over level 4?

I've done everything from trowel, to roll on a level 5 but I'm trying to get away from sanding?

Has anyone had success spraying that required minimal or no sanding?

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Old 09-19-2011, 03:57 PM   #2
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the spraying ive done makes it smooth cept where the wallss were oversanded
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Synko T.I.P.S primer, gives a level 5 like finish. When you sand it, there is a lot of dust, and it primes. A+ stuff.
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So the 5th level is prime?
I thought the painters done that.
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welcome production drywall. i've seen your truck and trailer around town before.
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here you go Level 4 vs Level 5 Finish

Level 5

Level 5, spraying mud???
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So the 5th level is prime?
I thought the painters done that.
5th level is just a quality of finish.From what Ive seen Moore your work would definitly pass as level 5 . Some manufacturers created products like level 5 ,its basically a good sandable primer,helps with flashing. We dont spray our level 5 walls....
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Most tapers around here wouldnt know level 5 if it bite em. So they have me spray something called prep coat over their level 3.75 work and call it good. Prep coat is ment to be put on under texture. They make a sprayable coating ment for levleling the work. there is one taper named Dave who does real level 5, he gets treated like a god.
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spraying or rolling on the last coat of mud in level five application means roller or squeegee marks must be dealt with.
BS on anybody that says the "putty coat" "piss coat" "sheer coat" "blank coat" "level 5 coat" etc.
doesn't need to be wipped with a metal knife.
I've listened to you journeymen experts for the last time.
A sheer coat needs to be hand applied and wiped with a metal knife.
Then sanded with 220 micro.
blabla bla on how many of you know how to make it perfect a different way.
I'm not paying for any different way ever again.
Hand applied and wiped with a metal knife or don't.
I am the one paying so that's the way I'll be doing it.
All other methods are pretending.
One more thing
Spraying intermediate coating doesn't take the place of sheer coat.
Not over level 4, level 4 and a half, or level 5.
Period end of story.
An intermediate coat also isn't primer.
A high build high solids coating meant to hide imperfections in the PROFILE of the sheetrock, prep coat sounds a lot like a material you can use in place of good sanding or mud work.
BUT YOU CAN'T!
It is wrong and also begs the question how are you selling level 5 without completing level 5?

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spraying or rolling on the last coat of mud in level five application means roller or squeegee marks must be dealt with.
BS on anybody that says the "putty coat" "piss coat" "sheer coat" "blank coat" "level 5 coat" etc.
doesn't need to be wipped with a metal knife.
I've listened to you journeymen experts for the last time.
A sheer coat needs to be hand applied and wiped with a metal knife.
Then sanded with 220 micro.
blabla bla on how many of you know how to make it perfect a different way.
I'm not paying for any different way ever again.
Hand applied and wiped with a metal knife or don't.
I am the one paying so that's the way I'll be doing it.
All other methods are pretending.
One more thing
Spraying intermediate coating doesn't take the place of sheer coat.
Not over level 4, level 4 and a half, or level 5.
Period end of story.
An intermediate coat also isn't primer.
A high build high solids coating meant to hide imperfections in the PROFILE of the sheetrock, prep coat sounds a lot like a material you can use in place of good sanding or mud work.
BUT YOU CAN'T!
It is wrong and also begs the question how are you selling level 5 without completing level 5?
A level 5 is achieved by coating the paper on the rock so that the wall or ceiling will have all one consistency of drywall cement. It hides the Minuit imperfections that would otherwise be magnified by light whether natural or some other lighting... I agree with the wiping down whether it is by a metal blade or not I guess it all depends how much you want to sand. Applying the taping mud is a personal preference as to how you want to do it ... Skimming out a wall to a level 5 does not mean you have to have a thick layer on it just enough to cover the texture of the wallboard and thereby prevent flashing.... If you want to take all the time and effort to do it by hand well all I have to say is more power to you It does not make it the correct and only way just because you say it is. And what are you talking about you are not going to PAY TO HAVE IT DONE ANY OTHER WAY are you not the one doing the work???? If not you really don't have any right to tell any journeyman how to go about his business, That's MY STORY AND I AM STICKING TOO IT!!!!!
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