Pumping mud in the mud-runner

joepro0000

I been having a hard time pumping mud in my mud-runner. I put in the mud filler slot into the pump, and when I pump the mud is really hard to go in. I have to tape off my angle-head, and pump the mud through where the angle head gets attached too, and it works fine. Its just a hassle to remove the angle head and put it back on every time I need to fill it up.

PETE

the last time i used mine it was extremely hard to pump the mud in it. but after the first time it was easier afterwards. never thought about pumping through the top.

cazna

My guess is the filler nozzel is jambed or worn out.

Capt-sheetrock

Two things maybe going on,,,,

1) and the most likely,,, your mud is too thick,,, they say it will handle thick mud BUT IT WILL NOT. See this is a push/pull mech, and if the push is too hard, it just spits it out.

2) You should spray your rubber gasket that slides in the glass tube with WD40 before you start, Yes i said WD40,,, I know they tell ya not to use it, but they are lying about that too

Sometimes, before the wd has a chance to work its magic, the runner will take 2/3 of a fill and then start spitting it across the room.

cazna

Do you have a product called Lanox, its made from the company that makes Inox, I use lanox on all my tools its very good, dosnt dry out and dosnt make everything smell like and engine. Great in the zooka and boxes, it seems to stop any mud you may have missed from setting, I have only just got a mud runner and havent played with it yet and i will use lanox in it as the Capt suggests.

joepro0000

no my mud was really soupy. I think I need to pump water in it, and clean it better.

Capt-sheetrock

You need to clean it real good after you use it, no doubt.

However, when you go to use it again, you need to spray the rubber gasket, in the tube or it WILL STICK on ya, and spit it all over the floor.

TheToolDr

If the valve is stuck due to dried mud, put clear tube end into 5-gallon bucket with 3 gallons water and about 12 ounces cheap white vinegar for an hour or two, then spray with garden hose.

Capt-sheetrock

Excellant !!!!!!!!!

rebel20

[quote=Capt-sheetrock;12919]Two things maybe going on,,,,


2) You should spray your rubber gasket that slides in the glass tube with WD40 before you start, Yes i said WD40,,, I know they tell ya not to use it, but they are lying about that too


Capt,
The reason they tell ya not to use WD40 is the solvents. They will after time dry out the gaskets if you do not apply it after every cleaning and it also will deteriate the life of the gasget. WD40 is aggressive to Buna gaskets and seals.

A better product is teflon spray Its properties are quite superior to wd40 for lubrication and it puts a dry film on the tools making it easier to clean.
You also do not have to apply it after every single cleaning. I would also spray all the parts with it not just the gasket. And it doesn't make your tools smell like your car engine. also does not leave residue like wd40.
Most all fastener supply houses seem to always have some brand of dry teflon spray. Dupont is 1 manufacture

Rebel

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cazna

Lanox Lanox Lanox, Did someone mention Lanox? Its great.

Kiwiman

Is that anything like that Lanacote? It's a lanolin type spray, I tried it on my box's and it worked good but it slowly got a build up over time and had to be stripped off so I went back to silicon spray.

DSJOHN

Rebel, that,s what I spray on, teflon spray, never tried wd40, but I,m sticking with teflon,if it aint broke dont fix it! DSJOHN

rebel20

Here is the link where you can find it they also have Inox teflon
http://www.inox-mx3.com/retail.php

A step up from teflon from what I read

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cazna

Hello Kiwiman
I dont know what lanacote is but lanox does not build up or need stripped off??? Im a drywaller/Gibstopper/painter not a mechanic and do not like smelling WD40 or oil etc, these products are aggressive and wash or wear away, and will harm rubber seals, Lanox tends to hang around a bit longer, I have only used this, and it has very little smell.
Its great for the bazooka, as all the tools, i wash it after use and dry it with a rag then spray lanox and it keeps it brillently, no need to respary when you pick it up again as it still there providing a great film of protection, it only needs a little and it goes a long way.
I use it on everything now, good on my truck winch too, great for slowing down rust. I Broght a 5 litre container and 2 small trigger spray container which i have one in my trailer and one in my shed, had it for 3 years and only used 25% of it so far, Good for any moving part. Trust me try it.

tricounty dwall

ive been using wd 40 on my boxes and pump. where can i get lanox?

Capt-sheetrock

[quote=rebel20;13005]As I have stated before,,, I make a living with my tools, I buy WD40 by the case, I have a mudrunner that I have been using with the same rubber gasket in the tube for 5 years, I run 10 bucks of mud through it a week. I have been using WD40 on ALL my tools, since I bought them, and I have NEVER had a rubber gasket fail, ,,,, yet,,, to ,, this,,, day !!!!!!!!!!

THe problem with teflon spray, or silicon spray, or any other spray, is that THEY will pick up dust (WD40 will not) therefore, causing you MORE problem than the lube is worth.

Again, JMHO

cazna

Fair comment capt, you are a man of more experance than i so you know what works, I havent had any problems with dust sticking to lanox and im curious to know if you used lanox for 1 week would you use the same amount as you do WD40, i would almost bet my left one you wouldnt.
And you mentioned your mudrunner needs a lot of WD40 or it sticks and spits? Would the WD40 have slowly perished the plastic tube and the rubber seal a little so thats causing it?? Lanox is far slicker than WD but im not experenced enough to make any comment on using mudrunner YET so these words are only a little thought so im not saying your wrong by any means, I bow down to the master, No disrespect intended.

rebel20

Capt,
Sorry to reil ya was not my intention to direct the comment at you personaly was just commenting on the wd40. I just don't use wd40 for my reasons and experience with it. I have found for me the Teflon works better, and thats probably what I should of stated instead of directing the what works better. Sometimes when you re-read things the next day you realize should of been stated different.

Rebel

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Kiwiman

Where is this Lanox you speak of grasshopper? Mitre10? I can't say I've seen it there, I'll give it a try.
Whats not to like about the smell of WD40, I love it, it's the smell of the garage, which takes my mind off work....My happy place.