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Old 09-01-2009, 05:45 AM   #41
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hey i like his figuring at his price 54" -12' = 648' I should only have to do one job a year , but at any rate what is so complicated is just in there tiny little minds , with competition like that , well lets just say not much to worry about.... simple just use sq ft ( and not to confuse those simple minded ones walls and ceilings sq ft ) not a price by the sheet.
it's that how it is,or do you break it down and charge by 8,9,10,12,14 when everyone know's that their are also 10',12',14' etc etc...don't you count up how many 8,9,10,12,14 etc etc in the pile then add up the price pre sheet, for the 8,9,10,12,14 etc etc let's say you have 24 8's,24 9's,34 10's,46 12's,17 14 footer's how much do you charge for that,and how do you figure it out,some say 8X4X0.5(or 1/2inch) or let's say it's a 9 footer 9X4X0.5(or 1/2 inch) etc etc.Is that how you do it,and you times that by the number of cent's your getting per foot then? how do drywaller's count their board?

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Old 09-01-2009, 07:46 AM   #42
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Well the general rule is if your getting paid it goes like this if it's an 8 footer 8X4=96 then you times that by 96x__whatever your getting paid per foot and if it's a 54" then you 54X12=648 then 648X__whatever your getting paid per foot...
EG.
8X4=96----->96 X the number of 8's you have
9X4=36------>36 X the number of 9's you have
10X4=40----->etc.
12X4=48----->etc.
14X4=56----->etc.
54X12=648--->etc
add up all your board feet minus any board that's left behind and times that by the number your geting paid per foot and their you go.
Some drywall company will pay you a base price of X cent's a foot and it goes up penny for every high part,arche's and other thing's

Look Sam,

A 4x8 has 32 sq. ft., not 96 sq. ft.

A 54"x12 has 54 sq. ft., not 648 sq. ft.

Or are you hanging 54' long boards?

How many mexicans would it take to handle one of those?
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it's that how it is,or do you break it down and charge by 8,9,10,12,14 when everyone know's that their are also 10',12',14' etc etc...don't you count up how many 8,9,10,12,14 etc etc in the pile then add up the price pre sheet, for the 8,9,10,12,14 etc etc let's say you have 24 8's,24 9's,34 10's,46 12's,17 14 footer's how much do you charge for that,and how do you figure it out,some say 8X4X0.5(or 1/2inch) or let's say it's a 9 footer 9X4X0.5(or 1/2 inch) etc etc.Is that how you do it,and you times that by the number of cent's your getting per foot then? how do drywaller's count their board?
That is not how i do it don't make it complicated . Just figure out the sq ft you need and order the rock or if supplied just figure out the feet from that... if a contractor or homeowners wants to know the price per board let them figure it out themselves..... the simple fact is it still all boils down to how much per ft not board... so i do not break it down it is a sad waste of time . just have one number for hanging one for finish and don't clutter up your estimate or proposal.... if you were a carpenter framing a home you would not break down every size piece of wood in there or and electrician would not break down every run of wire would he , or a plumber would not break down every piece of pipe , the list goes on and on , so why break down every size piece of board going into the job ... just give them a total footage for the work being done. do they also want a price on what your different mud or tape , bead etc. ?they usually don't care about that because it all is in the material package and so should rock.
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That is not how i do it don't make it complicated . Just figure out the sq ft you need and order the rock or if supplied just figure out the feet from that... if a contractor or homeowners wants to know the price per board let them figure it out themselves..... the simple fact is it still all boils down to how much per ft not board... so i do not break it down it is a sad waste of time . just have one number for hanging one for finish and don't clutter up your estimate or proposal.... if you were a carpenter framing a home you would not break down every size piece of wood in there or and electrician would not break down every run of wire would he , or a plumber would not break down every piece of pipe , the list goes on and on , so why break down every size piece of board going into the job ... just give them a total footage for the work being done. do they also want a price on what your different mud or tape , bead etc. ?they usually don't care about that because it all is in the material package and so should rock.
Give it up Stilts!

common sense isn't so common buddy.
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now i am confused too!
too much tape for you , your cut off
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Give it up Stilts!

common sense isn't so common buddy.
You are so right i was just banging my head over this the other morning , gave me a super big headache wondering how some people manage their money when they can't even do some simple math... I am so done with this thread , ufda me ....
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You are so right i was just banging my head over this the other morning , gave me a super big headache wondering how some people manage their money when they can't even do some simple math... I am so done with this thread , ufda me ....
yea........i was actually gonna just reply "Nathan please close this thread; going nowhere"

haha....

seriously though, i feel the same way......and to calm BOTH sides of this argument, i will say this:

whether you pay per BOARD or per SF..........i dont think either way is technically 'fair' (i read someone bringing up how its 'unfair' to pay per sf to the finishers blah blah because of the waste, etc on the floor)

...ok, i 'get' that argument...but nonetheless, if you think about it BOTH ways arent 'fair'.........but when it comes to simplicity and how things are GENERALLY done and have been done forever in this industry (as far as i know), per sf is the most COMMON method.........

not saying paying per board is wrong....not saying paying per sf is right.......but its just the way things are done.....i hope we can all agree to this.
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Sam, I think you're getting hung up on the 1/2" part.....

Our "board foot" is the square footage of the board. Period. I understand that you might be using the board footage formula for nominal lumber. But even that formula when applied to plywood, etc. under 1" thick is rounded up to a full inch.

But to the whole sq ft vs. sheet business, I believe that is pretty much a geographical thing. Per sheet seems (to me) more common in markets that primarily carry only 8's and 12's, such as Florida and Oklahoma. Sq. ft. rates pretty much rule in the markets that stock the full range of sizes. At least that's been my experience. And as long as everybody in a particular market pays or works that way, it's no big deal.
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uknow, that is true now that i think about it -- it all depends what region you are from, Darrens right....
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this thread still lives
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why do some threads go away and some (no mater how old and boring) keep coming back.this one is a no brainer if you know how to multiply and here it is agin.seems like i just get interested in one ,log off and when i come back it moved or gone and and old one is in the new thread place.someone needs to keep it simple for us simple drywallers.
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Alltex, I sent you a private message that might help with locating threads.
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are we figuring out the "per sheet business" yet?
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this thread is what happens when the topics on a forum, as of late, are dry and uninteresting...





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there i said it.
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LOL, I stopped looking or responding to it long ago
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