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big george · 03-24-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt-sheetrock

I think this is the crux of the matter,,,, I do drywall cause I like to do it, I never work by the hour, only by the job,,,, I would never just STAND around for an hour, no matter how much you pay me.

Money is not the ONLY reason to exsit !!!!

Who talked about standing around for a hour.I just said they both can work.

big george · 03-24-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt-sheetrock

Well since ya asked,,,,,,,,,,, I'm making about what I made in the 70's. I remember the "Carter" years, and we are here again, (because we don't learn from history).

I'm still floating above water, and it is picking up some, thank God.

What ya need to remember is this,,, Storms never last,,, and the guys that are still in bussiness and still have their tools and ethics, will be sitting EXACTLY where they need to be when things do get back to Capitalistic free enterprise.

BTW, one thing that helps me to hang in,,, is sometimes, if I have the weekend off, I'll sit around, drink a few beers, and talk all weekend about how I'm done, I quit, all that stuff. Then Monday morning I'll get up and go back to work, feeling much better about the whole thing!

If your making the same as in the 70's you should start up a band.

Capt-sheetrock · 03-24-2010, 09:02 PM

Ya know, alot of times we end up argueing, cause there are TWO of us.

1) those of us that are drywallers, and do drywall, no matter how the market is
2) those of us that are in this to MAKE MONEY. Nothing wrong with that either.

So in times like these, if your in it just for the MONEY, than its time to pursue another endeaver.

If your in it cause your a drywaller,,, than you do drywall,,,,,

nuff said

Capt-sheetrock · 03-24-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by big george

If your making the same as in the 70's you should start up a band.

A band??? do you play the fiddle????

I play the 5 string,guitar,mandolin,and harmonica,,, see my avitar !!!!

PS; my sweetie plays the frying pan

Muddauber · 03-24-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt-sheetrock

Ya know, alot of times we end up argueing, cause there are TWO of us.

1) those of us that are drywallers, and do drywall, no matter how the market is
2) those of us that are in this to MAKE MONEY. Nothing wrong with that either.

So in times like these, if your in it just for the MONEY, than its time to pursue another endeaver.

If your in it cause your a drywaller,,, than you do drywall,,,,,

nuff said

grid ninja · 03-25-2010, 12:25 AM

no matter what, i work the same, hourly or sub work , i love what i do for the most part . if your in a room next to me, just so you no we are racing. thats why i am the grid ninja. cool dude in broken arrow

Capt-sheetrock · 03-26-2010, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by grid ninja

no matter what, i work the same, hourly or sub work , i love what i do for the most part . if your in a room next to me, just so you no we are racing. thats why i am the grid ninja. cool dude in broken arrow

Grid,,, we are piece workers, capitalists. Thats why we do it,,, its the LURE of easy money, ya know !!!!

I have friends in the buss,,, that I work by the day for sometmes, when they ask me too. I guess thats a bit like working by the hour, I work the same speed I always do, thats just what I do.

But I would never, ever take a constuction job by the hour, I have never seen anyone that was satissfied in that situation. If I wanted to get paid by the hour and treated like a house,,,,,ya know,,,, I'd work for wallmart.

No one will ever respect you IF you work by the hour,,, you are just another guy from the soup kitchen, and can be replaced at anytime

JMHO

d-rock · 03-27-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt-sheetrock

Grid,,, we are piece workers, capitalists. Thats why we do it,,, its the LURE of easy money, ya know !!!!

I have friends in the buss,,, that I work by the day for sometmes, when they ask me too. I guess thats a bit like working by the hour, I work the same speed I always do, thats just what I do.

But I would never, ever take a constuction job by the hour, I have never seen anyone that was satissfied in that situation. If I wanted to get paid by the hour and treated like a house,,,,,ya know,,,, I'd work for wallmart.

No one will ever respect you IF you work by the hour,,, you are just another guy from the soup kitchen, and can be replaced at anytime

JMHO

you wouldn't say that I you were working on a union crew in NYC earning 100k per year plus full benefits

grid ninja · 03-27-2010, 08:35 AM

only thing i do different is i work longer hours Winn i peace work . worked one full year subbing from a company in O.K. city Dean Interiors in about 1987 . at 8 cents a sq ft for grid and 5 cents sq ft for tile i cant believe i done it so cheep . rocked houses for 8 cents a sq ft, rocked a house not to long ago . walls were 18 cents a sq ft ceiling were 25 , tapping i got for 27 cents a sq ft they furnished every thing . i made a bout 50 a hour win i was done. if you never peaced worked thin you don't know what you are worth.

CLUTCHSTEVENS · 03-27-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt-sheetrock

Ya know, alot of times we end up argueing, cause there are TWO of us.

1) those of us that are drywallers, and do drywall, no matter how the market is
2) those of us that are in this to MAKE MONEY. Nothing wrong with that either.

So in times like these, if your in it just for the MONEY, than its time to pursue another endeaver.

If your in it cause your a drywaller,,, than you do drywall,,,,,

nuff said

Great post Capt!!! I have subbed pretty much my entire career with a small amount of hourly work sprinkled in. I like going to work when i sub, sure i work a little too much at times and wish for some time off but when working by the hour i have always dreaded going, kind of like going to the doctor or school.

Capt-sheetrock · 03-27-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by d-rock

you wouldn't say that I you were working on a union crew in NYC earning 100k per year plus full benefits

Don't really know how to answer that D,,,, as a capitalist and an american, I am diametrically opposed to unions. They are an attempt to increase egg production, by strangling the chicken !

Do you remember the ole country song that went like this...

Everybody stand up and hollar for the Union
We ain't hit a lick all year

Or the one that said

If heaven ain't alot like Dixe, I don't want to go
You can send me to Hell or NYC, It'd be about the same to me

d-rock · 03-27-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt-sheetrock

Don't really know how to answer that D,,,, as a capitalist and an american, I am diametrically opposed to unions. They are an attempt to increase egg production, by strangling the chicken !

Do you remember the ole country song that went like this...

Everybody stand up and hollar for the Union
We ain't hit a lick all year

Or the one that said

If heaven ain't alot like Dixe, I don't want to go
You can send me to Hell or NYC, It'd be about the same to me

Cap'n...i'm a staunch capitalist and conservative. Never the less I believe in private sector union work 100%. especially in construction. My own company is not union, as I'm still a new business, but I worked union for quite some time ( as well as non union) and there is no comparison. The companies make a great profit, or they wouldn't be in business. The men earn a great living and they work hard. It's got nothing to do with capitalist or not, we're not talking public sector bureaucrats..

Capt-sheetrock · 03-27-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by d-rock

Cap'n...i'm a staunch capitalist and conservative. Never the less I believe in private sector union work 100%. especially in construction. My own company is not union, as I'm still a new business, but I worked union for quite some time ( as well as non union) and there is no comparison. The companies make a great profit, or they wouldn't be in business. The men earn a great living and they work hard. It's got nothing to do with capitalist or not, we're not talking public sector bureaucrats..

D,,,

With ALL due respect, It is impossible to be a capitalist and a union guy at the same time.

Words mean things,,,

TonyM · 03-28-2010, 07:11 AM

What's all this 'Union" business you go on about? Is it guaranteed work or something? Or just clock in, hourly pay, clock out?

**Darren@Partners** · 03-28-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt-sheetrock

D,,,

With ALL due respect, It is impossible to be a capitalist and a union guy at the same time.

Words mean things,,,

Amen, Capn. Capitalism is the exact opposite of pro-union. Ever seen a capitalist union organizer? NOPE! That's just so wrong on so many levels.

d-rock · 03-28-2010, 10:27 AM

darren and cap'n,
the mere fact that you would say that shows me you do not really understand unions, or conservatism.

evolve991 · 03-28-2010, 03:36 PM

I am a Drywaller,Hanger to be specific. I enjoy putting up quality rock and seeing a job well done. A nice check at the end is awesome too but there are many ways to make money. I do what I love. USG or Gold Bond,Miracle DSA or OSI,Baltimore Steel and Wire nails and Grabber screws on a job gives me a high like no sticky bud can!!!Holding a sheet over my head by my fingertips and getting it gasket tight is like a knockout punch in a championship fight to me. Being paid by the sheet is an incentive and allows me to set a goal.

big george · 03-28-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt-sheetrock

Grid,,, we are piece workers, capitalists. Thats why we do it,,, its the LURE of easy money, ya know !!!!

I have friends in the buss,,, that I work by the day for sometmes, when they ask me too. I guess thats a bit like working by the hour, I work the same speed I always do, thats just what I do.

But I would never, ever take a constuction job by the hour, I have never seen anyone that was satissfied in that situation. If I wanted to get paid by the hour and treated like a house,,,,,ya know,,,, I'd work for wallmart.

No one will ever respect you IF you work by the hour,,, you are just another guy from the soup kitchen, and can be replaced at anytime

JMHO

No one will respect you if you work by the hour.I think the caption has more on is mind.

Capt-sheetrock · 03-28-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by d-rock

darren and cap'n,
the mere fact that you would say that shows me you do not really understand unions, or conservatism.

Stated like a true Union guy,,,,,,

I and Darren said CPITALISM,,,,,, you changed it to Conservatisim.

I agree that you can be a socialist AND a conservitive.
However, you CAN NOT be a Capitialist and a Union member(socialist). Anymore than you can be a dog and a cat at the same time.
Or an apple and an orange at the same time.

I would also like to take this oppurtunity to say,,,, Oh Yeah,,,, I do understand unions, and I am whole-heartedly agin em, at ever pass.

Capt-sheetrock · 03-28-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyM

What's all this 'Union" business you go on about? Is it guaranteed work or something? Or just clock in, hourly pay, clock out?

Is that a serious question Tony??

03-27-2010, 08:35 AM	#29
grid ninja Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: broken arrow ok. Posts: 37	i love piece work only thing i do different is i work longer hours Winn i peace work . worked one full year subbing from a company in O.K. city Dean Interiors in about 1987 . at 8 cents a sq ft for grid and 5 cents sq ft for tile i cant believe i done it so cheep . rocked houses for 8 cents a sq ft, rocked a house not to long ago . walls were 18 cents a sq ft ceiling were 25 , tapping i got for 27 cents a sq ft they furnished every thing . i made a bout 50 a hour win i was done. if you never peaced worked thin you don't know what you are worth.

03-28-2010, 03:36 PM	#37
evolve991 Walking Contradiction Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North East,MD Posts: 151	I am a Drywaller,Hanger to be specific. I enjoy putting up quality rock and seeing a job well done. A nice check at the end is awesome too but there are many ways to make money. I do what I love. USG or Gold Bond,Miracle DSA or OSI,Baltimore Steel and Wire nails and Grabber screws on a job gives me a high like no sticky bud can!!!Holding a sheet over my head by my fingertips and getting it gasket tight is like a knockout punch in a championship fight to me. Being paid by the sheet is an incentive and allows me to set a goal. __________________ Marylands Modern Rock Alternative ...No Butchers,No Fatcats...just quality drywall installation...Shue Drywall

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