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Old School
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Patch with no tape
Am I the only one who cuts his patches 2" bigger than the hole, and peels off a 2" perimeter of the board off the back, leaving 2" of the front paper all around to use as tape?
Mud around the edges of the hole, pop the patch in, screw to a couple of backers, and wipe the paper edges like tape. |
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Just doing my job.
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Re: Patch with no tape
A California patch? Heck no.
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Re: Patch with no tape
Or a Blow out patch. I do it all the time....
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Re: Patch with no tape
Just wondering. I was helping a friend the other day in an old house, and did a couple of patches that way. His eyes got as big as saucers. And he's over 40, with years of D/W work behind him.
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Re: Patch with no tape
I use a blow-out patch all the time and I have seen that when you score the wall around the patch and remove the paper you get a much smoother finish.
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Re: Patch with no tape
isn't it easier to just use tape? isn't that why it was invented? sounds like a lot of ****'n around
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Just doing my job.
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Re: Patch with no tape
^This is patching, my man. These types of patches are good because with small stuff you don't have to mess around finding backing to screw the little bit of board in.
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Re: Patch with no tape
don't you guys just put in a backer? I know that when I have something to patch, I just hack off a peice of 1 by 4 or similar, and stick it behind the hole. Maybe I'm just too narrow minded. I'll try it next time. Maybe I'm missing out
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Re: Patch with no tape
The only time I do a nailer(backer) is when its in the ceiling.
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Re: Patch with no tape
if the patch is bigger than 4 inches. i will put backing with wood otherwise. i just hot patch it
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Sheetrock Doc
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Re: Patch with no tape
That's an Arizona patch.Works great for smaller patches.
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Re: Patch with no tape
mesh tape workwe with lotof layers slightly pushrd in and loaded with hot mud scrape the mud that oosed out hit 2 more times drag a mop or spounge to eliminate dust.
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Re: Patch with no tape
Hot patches (what we call them) are great time savers. we use 'em any time we can. Used to be easier to peel the rock off way back when. The recycled paper they use on board now just ain't the same.
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Michigander at heart
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Re: Patch with no tape
Use a tapeless mud here easier to patch just cut board at 45 around hole and fill
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Re: Patch with no tape
Where I grew up they called them "Butterfly patches" For small patches there fine. They work out well when you forget to grab material for backing,screws,drill,etc.
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Re: Patch with no tapeQuote:
nothing really wrong with this, but my patchguy laughs at this method. |
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Re: Patch with no tape
They are great if you know (or care) why the hole was made in the first place. if it's a doorknob hitting the wall and the finisher won't be putting stops in for a while yet then backing is going to save you a few repetitions of this repair, if a sparky cut the outlet wrong sometimes this is all it needs. i like it for late stage repairs when i am not carrying tape around anymore, though if at all possible i will use Confill... that stuff i keep around most of the time.
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Junior Member
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Re: Patch with no tape
I patch that way too, without screwing to a couple of backers. I just make sure the drywall I push in is snug; then I just coat.
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