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Old 02-02-2009, 11:13 PM   #1
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Am I the only one who cuts his patches 2" bigger than the hole, and peels off a 2" perimeter of the board off the back, leaving 2" of the front paper all around to use as tape?

Mud around the edges of the hole, pop the patch in, screw to a couple of backers, and wipe the paper edges like tape.

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Old 02-03-2009, 02:08 AM   #2
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A California patch? Heck no.
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Or a Blow out patch. I do it all the time....
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Just wondering. I was helping a friend the other day in an old house, and did a couple of patches that way. His eyes got as big as saucers. And he's over 40, with years of D/W work behind him.
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I use a blow-out patch all the time and I have seen that when you score the wall around the patch and remove the paper you get a much smoother finish.
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I use a blow-out patch all the time and I have seen that when you score the wall around the patch and remove the paper you get a much smoother finish.
What a great idea. I can't believe I never saw such an obvious improvement.
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isn't it easier to just use tape? isn't that why it was invented? sounds like a lot of ****'n around
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^This is patching, my man. These types of patches are good because with small stuff you don't have to mess around finding backing to screw the little bit of board in.
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don't you guys just put in a backer? I know that when I have something to patch, I just hack off a peice of 1 by 4 or similar, and stick it behind the hole. Maybe I'm just too narrow minded. I'll try it next time. Maybe I'm missing out
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don't you guys just put in a backer? I know that when I have something to patch, I just hack off a peice of 1 by 4 or similar, and stick it behind the hole. Maybe I'm just too narrow minded. I'll try it next time. Maybe I'm missing out
The only time I do a nailer(backer) is when its in the ceiling.
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if the patch is bigger than 4 inches. i will put backing with wood otherwise. i just hot patch it
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That's an Arizona patch.Works great for smaller patches.
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mesh tape workwe with lotof layers slightly pushrd in and loaded with hot mud scrape the mud that oosed out hit 2 more times drag a mop or spounge to eliminate dust.
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Hot patches (what we call them) are great time savers. we use 'em any time we can. Used to be easier to peel the rock off way back when. The recycled paper they use on board now just ain't the same.
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Use a tapeless mud here easier to patch just cut board at 45 around hole and fill
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Where I grew up they called them "Butterfly patches" For small patches there fine. They work out well when you forget to grab material for backing,screws,drill,etc.
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Am I the only one who cuts his patches 2" bigger than the hole, and peels off a 2" perimeter of the board off the back, leaving 2" of the front paper all around to use as tape?

Mud around the edges of the hole, pop the patch in, screw to a couple of backers, and wipe the paper edges like tape.
butterfly patch?

nothing really wrong with this, but my patchguy laughs at this method.
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Old 06-07-2009, 02:57 AM   #18
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They are great if you know (or care) why the hole was made in the first place. if it's a doorknob hitting the wall and the finisher won't be putting stops in for a while yet then backing is going to save you a few repetitions of this repair, if a sparky cut the outlet wrong sometimes this is all it needs. i like it for late stage repairs when i am not carrying tape around anymore, though if at all possible i will use Confill... that stuff i keep around most of the time.
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I patch that way too, without screwing to a couple of backers. I just make sure the drywall I push in is snug; then I just coat.
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Old 06-11-2009, 07:35 PM   #20
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we call em top hat patches, i use em all the time under 4 or 5 inches...then i screw scrap backing.
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