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Old 03-01-2011, 09:44 PM   #1
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Now I know why I dislike hot mud...


I used hot mud years ago when I was starting out in the taping world and nevered liked it. Stopped after the first project house. I have been using the Green Bucket for years and nevered looked back until today. Awwgggg....Now I know why I dislike Hot Mud. You need electricity, an extension cord, 1/2 drill, mixing wand, clean empty buckets, water, water & more water for cleaning buckets, and a good laborer to mix up a good & consistant mixture, and more water to clean of tools at the end of the day. No more, I am not using hot mud anymore. What was I thinking?? How do you guys that like it get used to it?? So much crap you need for this type of compound.

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Old 03-01-2011, 09:58 PM   #2
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Re: Now I know why I dislike hot mud...


i only use it on small jobs.....1 room projects-repair work
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A good taper ALWAYS uses it. Not my opinion, just a fact !
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I glue some balls to my vagina and get over it
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I glue some balls to my vagina and get over it

You still need all that gear for regular muds, It needs thinned dosent it??
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You still need all that gear for regular muds, It needs thinned dosent it??
I suppose that you could add your water and mix it up with one of those potato masher things if there was no power. But who wants to work without a radio anyway. I'd say wait to tape until the power is on!
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patches and repairs. i second that. if i need it to last more than 20 minutes i don't even like using it. i usually just mix by hand in the bottom of a bucket with my six inch. that gives you an idea of how much i use at a time. i HATE cleaning it off my tools and cleaning my buckets and just generally farting around losing the time i just saved. but it does have its place and i use hotmuds all the time. almost everyday.
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A good taper ALWAYS uses it. Not my opinion, just a fact !
guess I suck then, never touch the crap
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I am not a fan of chemical muds. Hot muds, fast set, whatever! Dont like it. Give me a box of synko and im happy as a pig in ..... mud
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Too all you see what I mean in using any type of hot mud, the mixing part.
Yes they do have a place in the taping world, Just like women: SlimPickins....... Thanks for being a part of it......
Cazna - and no thinning the mud, I just use it staight out of the bucket and mix it on my hawk if need be to the consistancy I want.
And yes on a radio I usually have on my Ipod on to some good tunes, thanks fr8train.
Carpentaper Hi-Fy back to you. Again, I know there are good reasons for hot mud, but until then....Go Green Bucket!! and never looking back.
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You use green for everything? & never had to mix 1 bucket.
Damn bet you have a lot of sanding to do @ the end of the job.

Fast set or hot mud as you call it, is the best,no shrinking,no cracking, hard as a rock & will dry in a bucket of water.To top it off,mold hates the stuff.
Once the gravy flats are done, it goes back in the van,then back to regular mud.We couldn't live without the stuff.
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guess I suck then, never touch the crap
careful 2buck but then the Vario is a all purpose.

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yes hot mud is a pain.
i tape all butts @ seams with 90 min year round.
don't block in butts with it , unless i have to.
n/g ss 90 great to work with. usg also a ok hot mud.
ruco-tuff rock- hot muds SUCK !
vario is the true hot mud a/p i look forward to using more of it.
i do agree with capt. hot mud is a quick setting compound , not fast drying.
bucket mud only takes a frog hair longer to completely cure .
i still say, applying tape with hot mud is stronger......

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...final touch - not sure why you think there is a lot of sanding?
If you three coat and pull tight on all the coats then there is minimal sanding at best. And it does help if you tape good if not great.
One type of mud and buying it by the pallets. Nevered had a problem or call backs.
As Confusius once said, "mud pulled tight makes sanding light."
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I use 5 min proform sometimes up to four bags a week whether its doing patches or several boards at a time Ive come to realize for some reason that with easy sand the quicker it dries the less it shrinks. Ill only do one trip jobs with 5 if you use 20,45,90, etc it cures and will look like crap when you come back. Also if you hang a patch cut the recess edge off because if you dont it will shrink.
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guess I suck then, never touch the crap

i second that, never touch the crap unless i am filling the stupid 1" gaps beside bathtubs & showers.
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If you don't use hot mud ( joint filler in the U.K. ), how do you get over large holes that you have to cut out due to damaged plaster board. Especially in the ceilings?

Love the balls on vigina! Great saying.
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They still use it for that dude.

I dont get what all the complaints for hot muds is about, I used it for ten years for taping and second coat then one premix for finish, and it always worked well, In fact gave me less trouble than pre mix, Its just the fact that i went from hand tools to autotools that made me switch, It is nice that you can work all day and only clean up once, but i never had one hassel with hotmuds, Prob 80% of all work in nz would be hot muds then one premix, Yeah ok its prehistoric, And swinging on a trowel is slow and hard, But it does work, very well.

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If you don't use hot mud ( joint filler in the U.K. ), how do you get over large holes that you have to cut out due to damaged plaster board. Especially in the ceilings?

Love the balls on vigina! Great saying.
I think a lot has to do with where you live and the environment.
Where we live the builders have accepted the fact their greedy b@stards and want us in and out as fast as they can so they can get their money. They will supply us electric heat even in the summer, so we have no drying issues. Better to make a fast nickle than a slow dime (sorry,no british translation for that).
plus our rockers do perfect work, We just prefill the butts b/c they "V" them out.

Maybe you guys need hotmud in england, I hear it rains all the time so....It also Sounds like you guys maybe like the kiwi"s, their builders supply no heat and it's humid there all the time (so I hear).
HEY,,,is it true you guys like sheep too
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