No-coat and Strait-flex on a roll

abaway

I've always used vinyl corner bead and nailed it with 6d ringshank nails. I really like what I've read about No-coat and Strait-flex corner products. One thing I'm not sure about is whether the products on a roll are interchangeably with the precut pieces. I can't buy either brand locally and thought it will be easier to order the rolls.

Whitey97

was that a question or a statement? I'm not sure exactly where you're going

abaway

Sorry, I reread it and agree with you

What I was trying to ask is this:

Is the No-coat and Straitflex on a roll equal in durability/strength to the precut pieces in 8-9-10' lengths?

I'm looking to replace standard vinyl corner bead with it for faster finishing, less mud and square corners.

Whitey97

I use straight flex for all my off angles and have no problems with it, I don't have that much experience with no-coat, but why stray from a good thing

Mudstar

I find strait-flex which its real name does not work as well as no-coat 325 You may ask why and what I find is that strait-flex is too stiff at the crease and has a tendency to not sit in the angle flat unless to take the extra time to fold it precisely to match the angle. Where no-coat 325 which is closely the same size folds nicely and once folded sits flat on both sides of the angle. It cost a bit more but much faster to install. But what I think the real question is (abaway) is asking is, does the roll of no-coat work as well as the ridged pre cut bead and what I'd have to say is yes and no. No as it cost more per. ft. and yes its just as strong also to concider 100 ft of no-coat takes up less space for transporting and shipping in your case.


Thats my .02c

Darren@Partners

Stick with Trim-tex Adjustable inside corner 10' if you warranty your work, especially on 18' high vaults. Everything else is a call back waiting to happen. Also make hangers use X-crack behind the off angle. Fixed too many cracks using rolled crap. Yes those rolls take up less space, but do you want to do it only once? Have tried every roll product available and have had problems with all of it. Don't use Magic-Corner it has a rubber gasket and doesn't paint out right. Ask your supplier to order in for you, it comes from same co. as J-mold, etc. And I would not try to use two different products in the same joint.

If the joint is wavy, chalk-line it and prefill prior to installation.

Then I reread the original post and wonder if you're wanting to switch on your standard o/s bead. Don't try it as corners need that little "bulb" so you can fill out the flanges. Using a roll product here won't stand up and that's not its intended purpose. Have seen where someone has tried to paper tape an o/s corner (w/o corner bead) and it looks like hack work.

TonyM

Tried No-coat 325 for the first time today and reckon it could be a goer. Need to get one of those corner rollers I think to get it really flat though. Only just been able to get it here in the UK. Expensive stuff!

Whitey97

does the no-coat bead hold inner off angles better than straight flex? I'm kind of sick of the amount of work put into making straight flex straight and now you guys have me curious

Mudstar

Just as I said above, the crease in strait-flex is too stiff. Try no-coat and you will see the diff.

Darren@Partners

You guys may get tired of me crowing about Trim-tex Adjustable inside corner but if you're having trouble with roll product, you gotta try it. It's only about .18 lf and it gives you an awesome line.

Whitey97

Maybe I'll try it!

Tim0282

Once you have the No Coat on and dry, you can run your 2" nail spotter over it and the next day the 3". It is done and very little sanding. Each angle coats in a few seconds. And the point of the angle is sharp.

damudman

I just bid a job with 600 feet of off angles, I will be installing no-coat for all of them 3.25.
This the most I ever had to do on 1 job.

Tim0282

That is bunch! Funny, we have a house that we start next week that has 500 feet of flat angles. Way too much for one place. The No-Coat sure helps, though. You'll have to try your nail spotter. Works great!

Al Taper

I like to use the wider roll of No- Coat. I think it is 4.00. its wider and more to stick to the wall.just my .02

big george

Hi Al. It's no-coat 450,we put it on catherdel ceilings and all odd angles.The extra width gives alot better feel on trying to keep it straight on bad corners.It's expensive (.80 ft).

damudman

I use 4.50 all the time I don't know why I said 3.25 I will be doing 4.50

Al Taper

Man its not cheap out by you.. Here it like $48 - 50 at a supply house. Or $58 to 60 at a lumber yard..But I feel it worth the money. The no worrys is worth it.

Apple24

I've been using the wide no-coat on a roll for all off angles never had a call back in 11 years.A buddy talked me into using usg rope beads for outside corners and usg inside off angle beads,both were junk compared to the no coat. On that note i dont know about the mud on bead super b-1 seems to shadow more often or pop. Been using it for a year now and still think metal nailed on is the way to go for 90's. Anyone else had any problems w/ mud on bead?

Tim0282

I like the Strait Flex Big Stick for mud on beads. They come 8',9',10'. They don't edge crack like metal. Put mud on them with the Mud Pro bucket. You can see them in All Wall. Just roll them after you run them through the bucket and coat with fast set or regular mud. Fast and no call backs.