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Mr. Mud Man · 01-09-2010, 10:00 PM

So I finally got an opportunity to try out the mud on a patch recently. I thought it mixed fine and was extremely creamy and nice to work with. I tried using the trimming tool you sent but I wasn't a big fan of how it cut the rock. It seemed I could get a cleaner cut just doing it by hand.

I think the mud worked great. There was some shrinkage but no cracks and I left one joint at 3/4 inch to test it out and it shrunk a little more but didn't crack.

kgphoto · 01-10-2010, 02:23 PM

Further update.

Now that I have been back to the job I can see that after it is fully dry it is a harder surface to sand. When it was "green" it sanded very easy, now not so much. Using a sponge backed sandpaper, it wasn't cut well and sanded the softer skim around it leaving a bump. I didn't have a hard backed sander with me on this job.

I did find that it scrapes very easily. By this, I mean I could shave it with my sharp painter's tool (think wide chisel) and it didn't chatter or break out, but shaved cleanly. This is a fast, low dust way to take care of bumps.

I notice it did shrink more than the Easy Sand on the Nail holes. That is not a big deal as I was planning on multiple coats. I will try a larger patch and see how much it shrinks there.

Definitely wear a mask when mixing and sanding this material.

brian mulligan · 01-11-2010, 03:48 PM

Rebel:

If you could send me a sample bucket I'd appreciate it.

Brian Mulligan
44 Botsford Hill
Newtown,Ct.06470

rebel20 · 02-03-2010, 06:31 AM

Sent out quite a few samples all over the states some results are back positive as well as negative want to thank all who have tested and gave feed back. Those of you still waiting on samples they are on the way. And those that have not been able to test yet I look forward to your comments.

Rebel

kgphoto · 02-04-2010, 01:25 AM

Having had an opportunity to test the chamfering tool, I must say that the first try wasn't too promising. Then we figured out we were using it upside down. I think a picture of it in use would forgo that experience for future users. The cut was pretty ragged, until we changed the orientation of the tool. Then it wasn a much steeper chamfer and a much smoother cut.

One other observation on the mud, is that it does shrink more than Westpac's Easy sand mud. While doing a demo at a school, we did a chamfered seam and filled it flush and as it dried there was quite a dip. This is not a complaint, as I expect to do multiple coats anyway, but just an observation.

rebel20 · 02-04-2010, 01:56 AM

Ya my first try was not all that well either I still need to translate the instructions will post on web when finished.

poconorock · 02-04-2010, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel20

Sent out quite a few samples all over the states some results are back positive as well as negative want to thank all who have tested and gave feed back. Those of you still waiting on samples they are on the way. And those that have not been able to test yet I look forward to your comments.

Rebel

Rebel,
Liked the mud a lot. Sets when it says it will and dries hard as a rock. Great for patches and big fills. Very creamy and easy to work with. Price and availability of the mud never discussed. Can i get it in larger bags, like the Easy Sand or National Gypsum products? If so, where?
Rock

Drywaller · 02-25-2010, 03:36 PM

Rebel,
I used your setting compound today on a plaster crack repair through out a house here in NH.
It mixed up a little stiff as someone else said but it was very creamy and nice to work with.
Some of the work I was going over was water damaged and stained,It did seem to bleed thru but I guess it is normal?
This product reminds me of the NON sandable durabond I will use once and awhile,Very hard when set.
I didnt get one of the butt tools,I would of like to try one.
Over all it seemed to go on nice and smooth,I am still a little leery about Not using tape,But I will try that method out soon on another job coming up .

01-11-2010, 03:48 PM	#23
brian mulligan Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: newtown,ct. Posts: 9	Testing compound Rebel: If you could send me a sample bucket I'd appreciate it. Brian Mulligan 44 Botsford Hill Newtown,Ct.06470

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01-09-2010, 10:00 PM	#21
Mr. Mud Man Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hudson valley, New York Posts: 11	So I finally got an opportunity to try out the mud on a patch recently. I thought it mixed fine and was extremely creamy and nice to work with. I tried using the trimming tool you sent but I wasn't a big fan of how it cut the rock. It seemed I could get a cleaner cut just doing it by hand. I think the mud worked great. There was some shrinkage but no cracks and I left one joint at 3/4 inch to test it out and it shrunk a little more but didn't crack.

01-10-2010, 02:23 PM	#22
kgphoto New member, old worker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: LA, CA Posts: 122	Further update. Now that I have been back to the job I can see that after it is fully dry it is a harder surface to sand. When it was "green" it sanded very easy, now not so much. Using a sponge backed sandpaper, it wasn't cut well and sanded the softer skim around it leaving a bump. I didn't have a hard backed sander with me on this job. I did find that it scrapes very easily. By this, I mean I could shave it with my sharp painter's tool (think wide chisel) and it didn't chatter or break out, but shaved cleanly. This is a fast, low dust way to take care of bumps. I notice it did shrink more than the Easy Sand on the Nail holes. That is not a big deal as I was planning on multiple coats. I will try a larger patch and see how much it shrinks there. Definitely wear a mask when mixing and sanding this material.

02-03-2010, 06:31 AM	#24
rebel20 Michigander at heart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 222	Sent out quite a few samples all over the states some results are back positive as well as negative want to thank all who have tested and gave feed back. Those of you still waiting on samples they are on the way. And those that have not been able to test yet I look forward to your comments. Rebel

02-04-2010, 01:25 AM	#25
kgphoto New member, old worker Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: LA, CA Posts: 122	Having had an opportunity to test the chamfering tool, I must say that the first try wasn't too promising. Then we figured out we were using it upside down. I think a picture of it in use would forgo that experience for future users. The cut was pretty ragged, until we changed the orientation of the tool. Then it wasn a much steeper chamfer and a much smoother cut. One other observation on the mud, is that it does shrink more than Westpac's Easy sand mud. While doing a demo at a school, we did a chamfered seam and filled it flush and as it dried there was quite a dip. This is not a complaint, as I expect to do multiple coats anyway, but just an observation.

02-04-2010, 01:56 AM	#26
rebel20 Michigander at heart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 222	Ya my first try was not all that well either I still need to translate the instructions will post on web when finished.

02-25-2010, 03:36 PM	#28
Drywaller Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NH Posts: 6	Rebel, I used your setting compound today on a plaster crack repair through out a house here in NH. It mixed up a little stiff as someone else said but it was very creamy and nice to work with. Some of the work I was going over was water damaged and stained,It did seem to bleed thru but I guess it is normal? This product reminds me of the NON sandable durabond I will use once and awhile,Very hard when set. I didnt get one of the butt tools,I would of like to try one. Over all it seemed to go on nice and smooth,I am still a little leery about Not using tape,But I will try that method out soon on another job coming up .