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Old 03-14-2010, 03:32 AM   #21
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[quote=kgphoto;10836]I strongly recommend against using tape on the floor. Test a piece on the inside of a closet if you have the time. I have used blue tape and it always pulled up a liquid applied finish, even in one day. Catalyzed varnish finishes are more resistant to the tape.

the only time we ever had a problem was on a limestone tile floor. the tile setter warned us about using tape on it but my boss wanted it anyway. it left a slightly lighter line 1 1/2" wide in some spots.oops!!! it wasn't every where or super noticeable but it still should not have been there.

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I ended up covering the floors with rosin paper taped to the piece beside it. It sort of works. I can't walk on it very quick without tearing through though. If it had it to do over again I'd try heavy vapour barrier over the whole floor instead of just the mixing area (mixing area has cardboard above the vapour barrier). Spent 2 fun filled days sanding out the tapers. in the places they tried tape in the joints, not a since piece of it was done right. kind of handy their paper peeled cleanly out when dry though Made removal easy. The mesh tape in AP compound was a bit more inconvenient, but the PC really will eat through anything given the chance.

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90 wht paper or heavier holds up alot better. More expensive ,but no penetrations if you,re careful. Make it pretty.
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saul, you might want to try this stuff next time: kraft paper floor protection

it has a plastic sheet bonded to it so you don't have to double up with plastic and the threading keeps it form tearing. the bonded plastic and threads make it really tough. the only thing to watch for is if you have a really delciate floor finish, put the thread side up just in case. somebody said they had a problem with the threads scractching, but we've never had that problem.

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saul, you might want to try this stuff next time: kraft paper floor protection

it has a plastic sheet bonded to it so you don't have to double up with plastic and the threading keeps it form tearing. the bonded plastic and threads make it really tough. the only thing to watch for is if you have a really delciate floor finish, put the thread side up just in case. somebody said they had a problem with the threads scractching, but we've never had that problem.

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JWall. Thanks for the link. That's great looking stuff, and I'm sure the need for this sort of thing will arise again. I've been looking for the sticky plastic sheeting too for covering stairs.
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Stuff looks pretty good and the price isn't that bad for what it does.
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If you can cover the exorbitant cost in your bid, this is the way to go...

http://www.ramboard.com/index.php

A lot of guys around here use masonite too, when you need assurance that a dropped pan or knife isn't going to cost you a few hundred dollars.
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If you can cover the exorbitant cost in your bid, this is the way to go...

http://www.ramboard.com/index.php

A lot of guys around here use masonite too, when you need assurance that a dropped pan or knife isn't going to cost you a few hundred dollars.
Just wondering why it would cost a drywaller money.. something as expensive as hardwood floors should be covered by the HO builder or GC. accidents happen thats what their insurance is for. and if they don't want to pay for masonite and the above mentioned floor protections.. I would walk away. Besides stained concrete,, Fake floor,, never liked the look of it myself.. I see no reason for wood tile or carpet to be laid before the drywall is installed and finished.
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reno/ sh!t work/ repair work/ walking truss/ stress cracks/ slicking old stipple ceilings[ sh!t work] additions / h/o h/o h/o???!!

I have seldom had a g/c offer to cover a damn thing!, but they do pay for those supplies /time in the end. [ not Oklahoma supplies] !
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Just wondering why it would cost a drywaller money.. something as expensive as hardwood floors should be covered by the HO builder or GC. accidents happen thats what their insurance is for. and if they don't want to pay for masonite and the above mentioned floor protections.. I would walk away. Besides stained concrete,, Fake floor,, never liked the look of it myself.. I see no reason for wood tile or carpet to be laid before the drywall is installed and finished.
Moore said it, mostly renovation work, remodel, etc. You certainly can't ask a homeowner to tear up their hardwood floor so you won't get any mud on it
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Sorry I was really basing my comment on the original post from a year ago where all the floors and wood work was new and freshly finished out before walls and ceilings are complete. I have had to work on stained concrete before.. and protect it . but I have really never heard of having to work on new wood floors that were finished out before DW.
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and yes I have never had a builder or GC prep anything out at all ,, they just love to cry .. feel like feeding them a bottle from time to time.. but then that would take up all my time. and extra cash.
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Ahh I got the answer,, we need to get a non - profit organization going , to collect nipples and pampers for all the builders and GC's world wide. !

Now that thought has me worried,,,, that may wipe out all the supplies and the real babies may get short changed.

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Sorry I was really basing my comment on the original post from a year ago where all the floors and wood work was new and freshly finished out before walls and ceilings are complete. I have had to work on stained concrete before.. and protect it . but I have really never heard of having to work on new wood floors that were finished out before DW.
I know a guy who papers the floors on all jobs he does, even OSB that's going to get carpet in new construction I think he's a nutcase sometimes.
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what a waste of paper. that makes my hippie heart cry.
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I wonder if he thinks that is part of the job,,, surely he knows to charge extra,, but then again...
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I wonder if he thinks that is part of the job,,, surely he knows to charge extra,, but then again...
I think he accounts for it in his bids, but from what I can gather he's about 10% higher than most everyone else.
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sorry i was really basing my comment on the original post from a year ago where all the floors and wood work was new and freshly finished out before walls and ceilings are complete. I have had to work on stained concrete before.. And protect it . But i have really never heard of having to work on new wood floors that were finished out before dw.
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Hey Saul. Have you heard of 3M 2080 Painter's Tape "Delicate"? It seems to have a light stick to it. A bit less tack than the regular blue painter's tape. It costs more than the regular - go figure. I've left it on walls and clear-coated wood for an extended period of time and had great results when it was time to pull it off. Frogtape has also jumped on the bandwagon and created the same thing.

It is funny though. In the back of my mind throughout the job I'm thinking "I hope this doesn't pull the finish when it's time to wrap it up" But it seems to work fine for me. Alway remember to go a bit slow when removing it and get a feel for it as you go.
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Blue painters tape/frog tape .. great stuff.. but i swear gold is cheaper!
that stuff cost man. no wonder a good painter cuts in without taping up.
can't afford too.
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