Cornerbead

Al Taper

I like the No-Coat bead. That what I use. How much is the hydrotrim?

TF1

big george,go with the no coat products little or no call backs, save on time and material.

d-rock

I disgree. The paper tape causes the finisher to apply too much mud to cover the paper, thereby taking away from the sharpness of the corner. On our jobs we do not permit it. Mesh tape is fine b/c it's not as thick, and we set favoring the back edge of the bead. The purpose of the tape is to prevent hair-lining, not to strengthen the bead.

Wallers

I started a thread in the hanging section about hydratrim, Around here the rockers put bead on. My thread didn't really pan out, I guess I need to talk to finishers about bead, eh?

Capt-sheetrock

Would be a good idea,,,, hangers don't know squat about bead, even if they are required to put it on, they don't know anything about if its on right or what it even takes to make it right, unless they finish also. That would be like asking a brick mason about beads

D's

I tried the hydrotrim last week and can't say I was too crazy about it. Mind you I was on a job where all board was 5/8" and it was a renovation so nothing was straight. In situations when you're trying to make everything square and t-up nicely, like with columns, beams, closet returns, it's hard to adjust and build up. Worked well enough for simple stand up corners. I'd try it again in new construction with 1/2" walls but stick with mud on beads for the tricky stuff.

D'S

d-rock

Non sense. My tapers have the easiest job around..

Capt-sheetrock

They may well have,,,, but what has that got to do with hangers putting beads on?????

Wallers

Really the only time I see hairline cracks is when the bead is tight from floor to ceiling, and then it's due to settling (or heaving). We don't tape our metal bead at all!

D's

FYI - I'm paying .44/lnf for Hydrotrim

D'S

d-rock

in these parts, tapers NEVER put up bead unless it's the S**T that runs through the hopper, but it's not common.

Capt-sheetrock

So what your saying is,,,,,, your beads are NEVER put on prperly,,,,

I mean would a painter have the siding guys "caulk" for them???

TonyM

Some of the hangers i've followed can't put a screw in properly or use a tape measure, so i'm glad I do my own beads. Also, IMO, metal beads stick out too far.

d-rock

are you kidding ? taper can't tell if something is straight if a level was glued to his head. How many tapers you know carry a chalk line in their bag ? We hang the bead correctly, so the tapers have no problems finishing. We don't differentiate between the hangers and the finishers. We're all one outfit working towards the perfect wall/ceiling. In order for the company to continue doing business, we all have to think like a giant organism.
Captain...lighten up.

d-rock

and 1 more thing..Around here it's the carpenters' job to hang the boards and beads. Finishers are mud only. Some companies have guys that do both, hang and finish, so it's the same guy doing both. Having said that, you'll see that guy hanging beads while he's hanging boards.

TonyM

That makes sense. Hang the board, install the bead, then wait for some clumsy f ucktard of a carpenter to come along with a length of 4x2 and give it a clout before it's taped.

Capt-sheetrock

See you made my point for me,,,,, you do things DIFFERANTLY in NYC than we do here,,,,,

Its just differant,,, thats all....

And I agree, lighten up !!!! YOU drew first blood,,,, IMPLYING that NYC does IT right and if we don't do it "like they do it up north" we are stupid,,,,,

Before you reply, go back and re-read your posts,,,,

Peace,,,,,,,, the OLD fart !!!

d-rock

Captain, You're wrong again. I never said you guys did it wrong . Someone else said they did it best , and that drywallers in Minnesotta knew quality better than anyone else.....MINNESOTTA !! That set me off. REAd THE POSTS.
A state that elected Al Franken to the senate.

Stormy_Ny

Lets not forget Jessie ...... Just saying ......

Capt-sheetrock

Just like a Yankee,,, start some sh*t and then say they didn't,,,

My G'ma used to say... "don't pee down my back and tell me its raining !!"