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All purpose mud all the time???

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#1 ·
All purpose mud all the time??? Who uses all purpose (green or black to) all the time??? I always use durabond for my first coat.
 
#5 ·
The tapers here will not tape with the usg a/p gray [lowe's] It's gummy and soft ..I've talked to a few d/c that tape with black top then use the green top for topping They say green top has a weak bond for taping...I wouldn't know ...I tape with hot mud ...I do know the green top [gray] a/p takes 3 times longer to dry compared to black top.. :yes:
 
#6 ·
We tape with USG green lid, and block and skim with LaFarge Rapid Coat. The lafarge comes with a green lid, so technically we use all green lid! :whistling2: It says on the bucket that it's an all-purpose, but I wouldn't use it to tape. Also it sands very easy.
 
#7 ·
lite weight taping mud for tape and paper stick beads. lite weight ap for the rest including hand tex. Mean green (green lid ap usg) is a good mud just find lite muds much more user friendly and the tapin mud is good stuff (tape only).
 
#9 · (Edited)
I decided to mess with my program today. I'm usually a lightweight mud user, and I bought a box of standard weight AP today and threw it on. The job is a hand texture, so I knew if it came out too crappy I could touch it up and not have to spend a lot of time fixing it.

Definitely different than what I'm used to. It dries hard, and runs pretty smooth, but I found that no matter how hard I tried I couldn't pinch my edges the way I'm used to. It also wanted to fall off my hawk:eek: For some reason the light mud sticks better, even when it's runny-er. I like that I can touch up over top of it and know that when I sand I'll just be removing my touch-ups, but I don't think I'll be using this stuff again any time soon. It dries like a rock, so even scraping boogers off before coating angles was a chore. I'm sticking with lightweight mud.

Maybe this is slightly off-topic, but I didn't want to start a new thread.
 
#10 ·
I'll use ProRoc all purpose, but not Synko Lite Line. I wouldn't use it because of pretty well all the muds I have used, it's the worst for any purpose at all. It finishes horribly. Sands horribly. Smells horrid. 'nuff said.

I gotta say the ProRoc all purpose mud is nice to use for angles, the screw holes don't shrink back so bad. I just dislike the idea of using 3 different muds, so I just use lite joint.
 
#13 ·
Doing first coat with durabond is a bit tricky but once you figure it out its just like AP mud. I find a stainless steeel knifes works best. That and a scoop of AP mixed in. then when applicated keep in mind that its gonna swell. Keep it tight. Nothing like going to a jobsite and knowing in advance that everythings gonna be dry before ya get there.
 
#12 ·
My last house I used 7 different products. Proform black, red and blue (bought all my supplier had in stock.} Usg green and blue then ez 90 and quick set 90. Talk about a mixed bag. The things I did notice is the proform black dries the fastest and the lightweight muds are just too soft and dont completely dry.
 
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The hot mud that you blokes have must be garbage. Our sticks like cr@p to a blanket. Metal bead is the standard over here (dont know why, dont ask) I have never had one fail due to hot mud not sticking.:yes:

My theory is because hot mud accounts for the most sales here that is where the most R&D has gone.
 
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The hot mud that you blokes have must be garbage. Our sticks like cr@p to a blanket. Metal bead is the standard over here (dont know why, dont ask) I have never had one fail due to hot mud not sticking.:yes:

My theory is because hot mud accounts for the most sales here that is where the most R&D has gone.
IT don't stick to metal here Gaz.. I could go through the list ,,but it would'nt matter ..I've tried them all ..they will not stick to metal !
 
#17 ·
I got to sand the regular weight AP today:eek: I had to lean on my pole, and it still took 3 times as long to brush down and then I just gave up:laughing: Hard as nails though, I had to chisel it out of the can lights near joints. I can see a use for it, but not on a regular basis.

Now I know why some of you guys can get away with 80 grit:yes:
 
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