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Old 06-26-2009, 08:37 PM   #61
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well......still, that'd make me too nervous hahhaha.....


thing is........you dont know how this will be 3........6........12 months from now.

that method u described just sounds too unconventional. yea, it looks great and is paintable hours after etc etc.....but like i said, the long term effects are still unknown.

hope theres room in this "big wigs" budget to repair the work if you find 6 mos from now, the freakin walls are slowly peeling off and crumbling.

dont wanna sound grim, but expect the worst -- always.

sounds too good to be true.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:18 PM   #62
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so, how you guys doin this week? ...or past month?

myself -- bad, haha. Can't seem to find the floor on some of these bids. Also found out today that i lost out on a $20k bid.......by $200 bucks (supposedly).

Contractor told me it wasnt about price (im rolling my eyes) but the other guy practically begged him to do the job (im rolling my eyes again).

as far as volume and production.....

had two starts this past week, but zero the week before....

couple small 900-1200 dollar patches, thats its though.

what's scary, is that on the 'easy' houses im bidding (8' flat houses) especially if they are close to the office, ive been bidding super low, or at least what i feel is super low..........low as in to ENSURE i get the job, thinking i may be the cheapest....its scary that i still keep getting beat out.

this is what i find the most frustrating right now.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:16 PM   #63
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GIMME ALL YOU GOT!! Right now I am taking anything/everything that comes my way. Sounds like you guys in here do a lot of texture which has got to help. Everything here is smooth finish and builders want michaelangelo for $25 a board. Doing 10 houses/townhouses a month plus the basements and oddballs that seem to show up at the right time lately. My philosophy is take while it's there. Billing 50-75k monthly. Not shabby for me and two patch guys.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:20 PM   #64
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can you please translate in price per total board SF?

i dont even know where to start with 'per board' prices.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:36 PM   #65
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figure where you want to be per board and convert to sqft. IE $38.50 per sheet = .802sqft and so on.
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:40 AM   #66
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figure where you want to be per board and convert to sqft. IE $38.50 per sheet = .802sqft and so on.
wow, you doin smooth wall for .80 cents / board sf, am i gettin that right?

if so, what is the typical scope of work involved before you get to texture?

can you be more detailed?

sounds lower than hell, to me anyways.............is that normal for your area?
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:50 AM   #67
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well......still, that'd make me too nervous hahhaha.....


thing is........you dont know how this will be 3........6........12 months from now.

that method u described just sounds too unconventional. yea, it looks great and is paintable hours after etc etc.....but like i said, the long term effects are still unknown.

hope theres room in this "big wigs" budget to repair the work if you find 6 mos from now, the freakin walls are slowly peeling off and crumbling.

dont wanna sound grim, but expect the worst -- always.

sounds too good to be true.
Well I did forget to mention that I first tried it 10 years ago and its been on the market here for over 20 years. I know I won't have problems and that painting in three hours is possible but as we know no one does it. Usually let it set up overnight so basically thats around 3400sqft muddin with 2 men 8hr day and then next day light sanding and painting. It has polmers in it chemical dry not air dry. And to say it dries cold to the touch not like hot mud.

all I am saying is if I have a patch or patches I "can" be in and out in 4-5 hrs not have to go back
or if I am not doing the painting in 2 1/2 hours I am done

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Old 07-02-2009, 10:46 AM   #68
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Well I did forget to mention that I first tried it 10 years ago and its been on the market here for over 20 years. I know I won't have problems and that painting in three hours is possible but as we know no one does it. Usually let it set up overnight so basically thats around 3400sqft muddin with 2 men 8hr day and then next day light sanding and painting. It has polmers in it chemical dry not air dry. And to say it dries cold to the touch not like hot mud.

all I am saying is if I have a patch or patches I "can" be in and out in 4-5 hrs not have to go back
or if I am not doing the painting in 2 1/2 hours I am done
That's good then, if you DO know the long term effects. Run with it!
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:31 PM   #69
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Bidding every thing from hack repair, 3K bsmts, to 17K burn job (140 miles from home). This past week a 2700 ft basement, a 10.5K addition (which turned into paint/prime, plus trim and tile. And world's smallest duplex (1BR, 1bath, no garage) 6600 ft. includes party wall. Next week....demo the old kitchen and 3K of work at aforementioned addition and big nothing after that. About a dozen or so jobs I'll get if and when they get ready (probably all at once).

Hearing more locally that the hack hispanics are cheating their hispanics more and more often. Soon they'll be fighting amongst theirselves.
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Bidding every thing from hack repair, 3K bsmts, to 17K burn job (140 miles from home). This past week a 2700 ft basement, a 10.5K addition (which turned into paint/prime, plus trim and tile. And world's smallest duplex (1BR, 1bath, no garage) 6600 ft. includes party wall. Next week....demo the old kitchen and 3K of work at aforementioned addition and big nothing after that. About a dozen or so jobs I'll get if and when they get ready (probably all at once).

Hearing more locally that the hack hispanics are cheating their hispanics more and more often. Soon they'll be fighting amongst theirselves.
hahhahahhahhah...."hack hispanics cheating their own?"

man....hahhahaha cant help but laugh.


today is a good day for me at least........just got awarded two decent sized houses outta the blue (i been sittin on these bids for the past 4-5 months -- i figured the owners just gave it to someone else), so thats a pleasant surprise.

also got awarded a small $2k remodel -- not bad either, something to keep the guys busy with...


Have a good 4th guys, god bless America as always!
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If eighty cents sounds low to you then I need to come where you are.Heres an example.
Today I loaded an 800 sheet apartment house. My number is 31k. All 5/8x ceilings and walls 9' lids. For that I have to load the nightmare, hang and scrap,tape and scrape, and baby sit and patch for the next month and fight the union scum when they slither around. I'll make $25 a sheet for that after costs, not counting the coffees and lunches to keep everyone smiling. last week i had to carry in 40 sheet basement and then finish it myself and I made $40 a board. It's all different. Different budgets. Different volumes. Different ag factors.
If you want to target volume go at a lower rate and pick up through numbers and better buying power. If your a custom guy go higher and trade on that. It's all where you want to be and what you're selling.
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Where I am at the big boys are selling complete installs for $23-25 a sheet. Some guys are at .45 and .47 sqft. Yes thats correct. 45 cents a sqft. Unreal. Makes you want to stay home and collect the Obama money.
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I'm all done complaining now.
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Things are somewhat getting back to normal again , Lots of work and a lot lined up , finally getting back to my average income , couple of slow months but paid the bills , now to catch up on my yearly average only have less than 6 months to do it , but again looking good for the rest of the year.
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Things are somewhat getting back to normal again , Lots of work and a lot lined up , finally getting back to my average income , couple of slow months but paid the bills , now to catch up on my yearly average only have less than 6 months to do it , but again looking good for the rest of the year.
i know what you mean, 'trying to catch up on my yearly avg with only 6 mos left' hahhahah...

i've unfortunately put this year, 2009 to bed pretty much.....

yes, it IS somewhat picking up, especially for me as well the past 2 weeks......but still, i myself am not looking forward to the rest of the year for us.

just trying to focus on 2010. Good for you though stilts, hopefully it'll stay up in your area.
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What's goin on guys? been away on a small vacation, thought i'd catch up by asking how the usual crowd is doing? things pickin up at all?

i actually came back from my vacation with a bit of good news, as in a significant # of jobs that needed bidding while i was gone....

anything changing for you guys?

it "seems" like the economy is starting to make a turn for the good (god knows how many times i've uttered this same sentiment on this forum).....if not literally anyways, at least it seems peoples psychological perceptions of the economy is gettin better, hahaha.......at least that the sense im getting.

and i think all you guys would agree thats better than nothin...

anyways, hope you guys been well and actively bidding!
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San Diego is an area they claim to have bank leads. After discussing lack of results with Sarah, being told to email my concerns to customer service, and then being ignored, I gave up. I went through 14-16 leads without a single response, am pretty certain I got took and won't mind telling anybody who asks.

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