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JoeMudder · 04-18-2009, 06:06 PM

Does anyone have info on northern Kentucky what subs are getting for residential work? Does 78 cents and up per foot sound realistic for labor and materials?

muddymen · 04-18-2009, 10:02 PM

78 cents? Hope you like the dollar menu and live in a tent. Around here if you go lower then 85 you're working for the fun of it. Takes money to run a business and feed the family. There are the hacks and indviduals that go lower but most of them don't even have a bus lic. or their wife/boy friend brings home the bacon. A box of mud at HD is 11.81 for crying out loud.

**Darren@Partners** · 04-19-2009, 09:11 AM

Better take it Joe, almost a whole dime more than our big boys and hacks are charging....

Whitey97 · 04-19-2009, 10:47 AM

sounds more than fair for Mn prices

**Darren@Partners** · 04-19-2009, 11:03 AM

Whitey, that's with all materials

Whitey97 · 04-19-2009, 01:25 PM

yeah, we've been getting pretty beat up on pricing. That still sounds fair for here. Unless of course it's a monster house, with more than 9' lids and 1000 ft of bead.

Custom Drywall Svc. · 04-19-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by muddymen

78 cents? Hope you like the dollar menu and live in a tent. Around here if you go lower then 85 you're working for the fun of it. Takes money to run a business and feed the family. There are the hacks and indviduals that go lower but most of them don't even have a bus lic. or their wife/boy friend brings home the bacon. A box of mud at HD is 11.81 for crying out loud.

yea, lower than 85 is not good.

.........quite honestly, i wish the market would actually reflect this, id be HAPPY.

but truth is, ppl are going 65 - 75. ridiculous.

Custom Drywall Svc. · 04-19-2009, 03:40 PM

is a box of mud at home depot really almost 12 bucks per???

Whitey97 · 04-19-2009, 05:06 PM

probably there. I get it at 'nards for contractor pricing which is 8 flat

**Darren@Partners** · 04-19-2009, 09:00 PM

Whitey, is that 3.5 gal or 4.5 gal.?

JoeMudder · 04-19-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey97

yeah, we've been getting pretty beat up on pricing. That still sounds fair for here. Unless of course it's a monster house, with more than 9' lids and 1000 ft of bead.

That's just base price. Extras would be added to that of course, such as 9' ceilings, tray ceilings, cathedral ceilngs, excessive bead, etc.

Even though wages seem to vary around the country the cost of materials doesn't seem to fluctuate all that much.

JoeMudder · 04-19-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darren@Partners

Better take it Joe, almost a whole dime more than our big boys and hacks are charging....

One of the accounts we lost here the guy that got it was doing the houses for about $2000.00 less. These homes are around 9,000 square feet of board, quite a drop just to get work. I understand it goes on all over the place.

When I checked materials in northern Kentucky they weren't much lower than they are in western NY. Maybe half a buck on a bucket of compound. I understand wages are lower there so the .78 per foot seemed like it would work in that market. I may relocate there and have been working on the numbers. Hard to find much online about what the subs are getting there.

In western NY the base price hovers around .83 and they try to go as high as a buck on a foot if they can. The old rule of thumb we used to use just doesn't work any more with the way the economy is. If it did we'd all be getting a buck a foot for drywall.

Custom Drywall Svc. · 04-20-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeMudder

One of the accounts we lost here the guy that got it was doing the houses for about $2000.00 less. These homes are around 9,000 square feet of board, quite a drop just to get work. I understand it goes on all over the place.

When I checked materials in northern Kentucky they weren't much lower than they are in western NY. Maybe half a buck on a bucket of compound. I understand wages are lower there so the .78 per foot seemed like it would work in that market. I may relocate there and have been working on the numbers. Hard to find much online about what the subs are getting there.

In western NY the base price hovers around .83 and they try to go as high as a buck on a foot if they can. The old rule of thumb we used to use just doesn't work any more with the way the economy is. If it did we'd all be getting a buck a foot for drywall.

i know

when things were great, i was getting .95 - 1.50/sf easy..........i dont even wanna say where theyre at now.

and talkin to darren earlier, he just confirms it.

fkkn disgrace.

Custom Drywall Svc. · 04-20-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitey97

probably there. I get it at 'nards for contractor pricing which is 8 flat

my price is 6.45 / bx.

Whitey97 · 04-20-2009, 08:45 AM

it's for a 4.5 of lite blue proform

drywalljoe · 04-20-2009, 08:56 AM

well guys i have heard of guys bidding work at 62 in northeast ohio i dont even know what too bid anymore

Whitey97 · 04-20-2009, 09:27 AM

alright, so let me get this straight. If you had say 100 sheets of 12's and everything was 8' minimal bead just your basic old school rambler from the 60/70's your bid would be what? I'm almost embarrased to show you our prices

JoeMudder · 04-20-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by drywalljoe

well guys i have heard of guys bidding work at 62 in northeast ohio i dont even know what too bid anymore

.62 is cRaZy I was talking with an associate here and I don't know if they're going quite that low but even if they aren't I don't think it's too far off.

**Darren@Partners** · 04-20-2009, 07:08 PM

.62??? Well I feel better now.

Custom Drywall Svc. · 04-20-2009, 07:19 PM

yea, im speechless...................

.62?

....sigh. yea, the drywall industry is officially trading dollars now it seems, no matter what part of the u.s. you are in.

i swear, i'll shut down shop if this becomes the norm. no point being open to just spin wheels and keep employees busy.

the only way i would make money off of .62 cents, is if i stole all my mud and sheetrock off a USG truck.

....

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