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Old 03-11-2010, 09:00 AM   #21
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First board up at 10 till 7:00. 5 minute coffee. 15 minute lunch. A short afternoon and get the hell out of there. 80 sheets can be done if its not to cut up.

You also have to lock the doors and windows so no one will come and talk, unless you can hang sheet rock with your lips.
( Hopefully its all 1/2 " )


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Old 03-11-2010, 09:23 AM   #22
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Kick everyone and their crap off the job prior. They usually scatter anyways when the boom truck shows up
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:20 PM   #23
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First board up at 10 till 7:00. 5 minute coffee. 15 minute lunch. A short afternoon and get the hell out of there. 80 sheets can be done if its not to cut up.

You also have to lock the doors and windows so no one will come and talk, unless you can hang sheet rock with your lips.
( Hopefully its all 1/2 " )
what time do u start ? if start time is 7AM, then you can't expect ur guys to begin set-up at 6:45. They begin set-up at 7, break for 10-15 mins around 9, then 1/2 hr lunch @ 12. Knock off at 3:15 to wrap up, out the door at 3:30. that's a fair 8 hr day. I would never work for an employer with 15 minute lunches and 5 minute coffee, why would I expect someone else to ? Also, if you're getting paid from 7-3:30, why would you start work earlier ? We as business owners may not punch a clock, and our business is the most important thing to us, but our employees have their own lives and are entitled to a fair 8 hr day. Otherwise we should pay time and a half when we want them to do extra hours.
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d we are on to totally seperate pages. Geez you'd really have a fit if you saw me walk on a job and box the whole thing in an hour and leave for the rest of the day. Alot of times I will go in on the weekends hanging and finishing just so nobody is in my way and I am not in theirs. I'm not talking about hourly work I am strictly talking piece work. Just marching to the beat of a different drummer and it ain't to bad.

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Old 03-11-2010, 04:34 PM   #25
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No doubt, whatever makes money for you and makes you happy. That works for you, but I'm talking about employees and what we as business owners expect from them, or what we consider a "day". When I price work , I base production on an 8 hr day. I've never done piece work.
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I used to put up 100 sheets a day. Just me and a helper. He worked for me for 3 years so he knew what to expect from me. We would start at 7 and work until 5 or 5:30 or when ever I got sick of being there. We didn't do this everyday. But on most houses we could, if it wasn't to cut up.
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I used to put up 100 sheets a day. Just me and a helper. He worked for me for 3 years so he knew what to expect from me. We would start at 7 and work until 5 or 5:30 or when ever I got sick of being there. We didn't do this everyday. But on most houses we could, if it wasn't to cut up.
in a 10 hr day, that's 50 boards per man. that's 5 boards per hour. that is realistic. I generally find 1 man does an average of 30 boards per day (8 hrs) unless it's wide open and not cut up, then maybe 50.
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Also in commercial, it's never straight ahead. There is always stopping to tie in corners and address framing issues or insulation. On residential, the framing is already (or should be) buttoned up 100%.
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Also in commercial, it's never straight ahead. There is always stopping to tie in corners and address framing issues or insulation. On residential, the framing is already (or should be) buttoned up 100%.
When I was doing commercial, the most I stood up was 85 sheets of 10 footers, by myself. The thing is, it took me 3 day's to top all of them off.
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When I was doing commercial, the most I stood up was 85 sheets of 10 footers, by myself. The thing is, it took me 3 day's to top all of them off.
lol don't I know
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Rockers are rockers. Framers are framers,wood or metal. Trim carpenters are trim carpenters. There is overlap where some rockers are also framers or trim carpenters or vice versa. Same with finishers. It all depends on the experience of the individual. A bird can dive underwater but its not suddenly a fish. To quote a role model of mine" Sticking a feather in your butt does NOT make you a chicken". I'm not knocking anybody,everyone is great at something and good ,pretty good or passable at others. I am a Rocker,I can frame both metal and wood to some extent,finish to a decent result at a much slower rate than a finisher and can manage some trimout. I can also hand finish concrete,lay block/brick/stone,operate a roller,paver,backhoe,loader or forklift. By no means would I qualify myself as a Framer,Trim Carpenter,Finisher,Concrete Finisher,Mason or Operator....I just dont have the long term experience to claim more than 'some experience' on them. I get tired of hearing about how anyone can hang drywall.Every other trade wants to hang rock when they get slow. I love watching what happens when an 'instant hanging crew' comes up against a sprawling continous ceiling with lots of islands,bumpouts, stud direction changes and metal beams/hangers....they cant even run the router straight to cut in the overlap let alone not NEED the router. Sorry for the rant,I've been listening to amatuers talk about what they built/hung alot lately.
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what time do u start ? if start time is 7AM, then you can't expect ur guys to begin set-up at 6:45. They begin set-up at 7, break for 10-15 mins around 9, then 1/2 hr lunch @ 12. Knock off at 3:15 to wrap up, out the door at 3:30. that's a fair 8 hr day. I would never work for an employer with 15 minute lunches and 5 minute coffee, why would I expect someone else to ? Also, if you're getting paid from 7-3:30, why would you start work earlier ? We as business owners may not punch a clock, and our business is the most important thing to us, but our employees have their own lives and are entitled to a fair 8 hr day. Otherwise we should pay time and a half when we want them to do extra hours.
I thought you are a union guy.. Isnt NYC on 7 hr work day?
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