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Old 03-23-2010, 04:16 PM   #41
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LOL "Its the end of the world as we know it and I feel..."... like killin' someone....LOL
But seriously. Us drones have let the fat cats get away with murder,literally,for years now and its going to take alot to fix it. I'd rather go down swinging than die of slow starvation and attrition while watching my kids chances dwindle to nothing. We always got to see a horrible new world in scifi movies,like Robocop or Blade Runner, and believed it to BE fiction. But time and reality show us a different view now as if those in power WANTED to dull our minds to it. I have nothing against people bettering thier lives and providing for thier family but not at the cost of mine! I still say the result of putting a million plus construction workers against the wall will be the final straw in the long run. Everywhere I go I meet guys who have been 'displaced' and we all have kept our heads low but its there ,just under the surface,simmering and heating up to melting point. I still hold allegiance to an America that was great. The real villians lie between us and the White House and keep themselves hidden,as true cowards do, while writing and rewriting our death warrants and billing our children for the privelege.

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Old 03-24-2010, 08:50 AM   #42
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Drock,
Im in full agreement, but there are plenty of sites out there. In the interest of keeping the site on topic, I imagine Nathan would prefer we take our political discussions there. I am very impassioned about the very topics you describe. PM me and we can trade links.

Evolve, the real villians are all of us! For sleeping at the wheel . For many of us, having never read our founding documents, not voting in every election, not educating ourselves and each other. For our complacency. But the REAL villians do not reside in DC but on Wall St and the banking centers of the world.
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You are exactly correct about wall street and the Banksters. DRock is also correct althought i hope not. The only way we have a chance to turn it around on them is if enough people in America find out the truth and come togeather. If we that have searched and know, just preach to the damn choir, then we,re done. It is my duty and yours also to plant the seed of truth everywhere, people gather , so they will wake up and the numbers grow and we can get to the business of returning this country back to the people. I,m actually scared of my government and i should be. And by the by, how come nobody ever Fricks with my opinions on stuff.I must come across wrong , cuz i,ve invited it in the past and nobody jumps. I,m one of the oldest working tradesmen amongst you and my opinions are ignored. Couldn,t help myself, just had to say that.
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sorry for the disjointed post thats what happens when someone with A.D.D. posts while barely awake

I call myself a Democrat but have to admit my opinions and beliefs fall somewhere between both parties. My main problem with the Republican party is that it was Yuppies who brought about the corporate rape of our citizens and they were mostly Young Republicans. Republicans want a republic which reminds me of the Union Of Soviet Socialist Republic and although they claim to be anything but communist the extreme opposite of communism seems to be its twin. So we're owned by ruling corporations instead of the government....big deal....I still want this F-ing noose off my neck. I don't consider myself to be incredibly intelligent but I can definitely see outside the blinders.
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Evolve, our Republic predates the USSR by about 120 years or so. The crap started with Woodrow Wilson giving up our monetary system and then FDR giving the banksters clear title to your earnings with that social security number. Not that the Republicans of the '80s didn't do their share of damage. Their is NO real difference in Ds and Rs, what we need are fiscal conservatives, regardless of their social domestic views.

The root of today's problem can probably be traced back to the Civil War or perhaps further. Any place you find a Rothschilds name, you can start there. Bank of America can be traced to the Bank of Italy which can be traced to the Templars.

Yup. Now I sound like a conspiracy theorist, right? If anybody wants to look for themselves it's all out there for you to see. Don't take my word for it. But before anyone rails back about how nuts it sounds, check it out first.
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Evolve,
You should check out the Committee Meetings from 1998 staring Barney Frank The Queen, they have him on youtube just listen to him state how Banks should be able to loosen up Mortgages so more people can have the American Dream Home Ownership, This move to deregulate the Banks is what turned the economy into the dumpster, when you let people who could only afford a house that was worth $75,000 be able to purchase a house that costs $350.000 that's what happened with the economy I like to say it this way. "Champagne taste with a Beer Barral Budget" when you have people biting off more then they can chew, that's what took us down, speculators drove the prices up Bank's played loosie goosie with lending.
As for Socialist Moves well your President just hooked you up. with Healthcare and FORCING People to BUY it, Sorry UnConstitutional!
obama is for a Socialist America, Watch what he does about all the ILLEGALS here, he will sign a Amnesty Bill working it's way threw the Senate so you may be looking for work at places like Mickey D's cause all the ILLEGALS are going to take construction jobs for Lower Wages, They always have and always will, it's their nature to work for CHEAP!
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On the positive side, we,re all gonna be able to get down to our fighting weight. Plant your gardens, figuratively and literally.
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Start going to your local Republican Committee meetings and voicing these same ideas, or if they've got you turned off, try the Constitutional or Libertarians. Don't just be a keyboard Rambo. Get the word out and if you still have anything left in the 201k and market, watch it CLOSE. Don't be afraid to pull it out, better to get out a day, week or month early than ride it a day too long.
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This site is my home. You all are my friends. We can all relate to the effort that is required to do this job. It is frustrating to have undocumented workers taking food off our tables. Money out of our pocket.

We just don't need anymore impediments. It's already difficult enough.
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http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy31.htm Putting this up, is it a true document. I am not good at the internet , to say the least. If it is true, yay for our side.
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http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy31.htm Putting this up, is it a true document. I am not good at the internet , to say the least. If it is true, yay for our side.
to many words. care to summarize for us lazy laymanites?
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to many words. care to summarize for us lazy laymanites?
Ah, I think we just uncovered part of our problem.
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My name is William R. Bartell and i am a Montanan and a American. I belong to no political party . I am a dedicated craftsman and i am a Brother. I am clear on who is root of all the problems of the world and i stand up and with my boot mark a line in earth and declare " I STAND HERE" I believe the only way to defeat the enemies of our nation and our beautiful world is not to debate the pro,s and the con,s of the issues in front of us, but to just get everyone awake and accept who is the enemy. We are mind****ed beyond belief and we have to chum the waters and lead them to the truth. Once enough people accept and realize , the battle will be won, They have everything on their side except the truth and numbers. No matter what, they are going to crash our world as we know it. Its not if its when, i,m on Facebook and i put up links only to what are truths not conjecture. My son is in Iraq and i have be careful with his belief system as he,s on the frontlines. I offer truth and i accept truth, lets get busy Brothers. And if i ever disappear so be it, just find my son and tell him my words.
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Ah, I think we just uncovered part of our problem.
Exactly. Not to insult anyone, but failure to be vigilent and blind ignorance of the voting populus has brought us to this point. I haven't completely read that link, but yes, Executive Order 11110 was signed by Kennedy. Was it the reason for his demise? Not 100% sold on that one. That order simply reaffirmed an earlier EO signed by FDR(?), so it wasn't really new policy. Supporters of this theory point to the fact that Reagan raised the idea of returning to the gold standard just prior to the attempt on his life, and that that was the last utterence by any POTUS since re: gold standard. So to summarize, the Fed boys ain't to be trifled with .

This topic would require a verbal exchange to fully discuss. Google "the report from Iron Mountain" and the "creature from Jekyll Island" and head down the rabbit hole. Then pm me, glad to discuss it with you. Or get my phone # off my site and call.

It is great to see more folks awakening. That is the key. Those of a like mind can lay back and rail away, but without spreading the truth to the sheeple, remedy is doomed.
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Bill,
If you disappear. I'll try to look him up.

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Ah, I think we just uncovered part of our problem.
nah, i just don't think the sky is falling like everyone else does so i'd rather not waste my time
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nah, i just don't think the sky is falling like everyone else does so i'd rather not waste my time
Humm, runaway Federal spending, major states like California, New York, Michigan and Illinois facing fiscal bankruptcy, record unemployment, unchecked illegal immigration, a rising cost of living that no one has the courage to call inflation, energy costs that fluctuate at the drop of the hat, the majority of our national debt held the Chicoms, an educational system that is falling behind world standards, our troops embroiled in a foreign war that no one is sure why we're in to begin with, a government that is taking over the private sector piece by piece, the same government that has to make back door deals to secure unconstitutional legislation after making a promise to the American people to be "the most transparent Presidency ever." Yea, you're right......the sky is not falling..........
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I like California Stars

The sky is falling for us just as it has for every past generation who faced hard times. The difference is that WE get to LIVE it rather than read about it or be told by old timers. You're right I don't do enough about anything even though I can see things aren't right. Me and a million others who know they should act and don't. Don't count me out though,I'm just not going to ramble or post every thing I do or think. I intend to make an effort to change things and no I don't mean anything nuts unless you count disagreeing with a giant nuts. I'm living the extreme downside of The American Nightmare and there is no 201k,401k or stocks in anything. You've all heard "He started with nothing...." well thats me...and I'm starting over...again....self employed and struggling is way better than corp employed and conforming,not that I'm conforming all that well.
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It doesn't matter. An "R" or "D" behind a name is still a crook. They don't get elected otherwise. Anyone who becomes president is already a bought politician.
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I'm no Econ whiz, but this weeks bond auction went pretty badly, lack of demand on the Chinese and other foreign buyers caused the Fed Banksters to step up. They wound up by the Treasuries at something like double current rates. This, my friends, signals the beginning of a (hyper) inflation curve. This is BAD news, but it is exactly what was to be expected when the. Treasury started printing money. I cannot stress enough the importance of this event. It will take awhile to affect you individually. Think of it the same as oil doubling in price to the rifinery and the effect on the pump price. If the cost of borrowing(bond yield) doubles at the source( purchasers of bonds) the cost is passed down the line by the banks to you the consumer.

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