Our america

Quality1st

Lincoln wrote in 1864: I see a crisis in the near future, that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations in high places will follow, and the moneypower of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed. Another quote : The great issue of our time is not taxes, a balanced budget, social security, or medicare. These are all elaborate red herrings.The great issue that confronts us is this: Is America to be ruled by all of us and for all of us_ or has the american government become a government of, by, and for, a relative few. Just thought i would share these. The powers that be know how complacent we are, and how powerless we feel. They numb us with their bull****, and just flat wear us out with their rules, taxes and lies. Worse thing is they make us fund our own subjegation and their mistakes. If we the people don,t get to the streets in every town and city in this country, then it is over and they know it. What say you All?

Whitey97

I try not to get too into politics, otherwise I would never stop

Drywall Tycoon

I voted for Ron Paul in the last Presidential primary.
I also voted Libertarian every previous election since 96.

To bad there isn't another Reagan.
Sarah Palin doesn't even know what news paper she reads.

When I was at Thanksgiving dinner at my sisters. My college freshman niece said she would be O.k. with Socialism. They are getting brain washed in college. The professors are all wards of the State. They are propagating more dependency on the government as a result of their influence and control over the students.

That is really sick.

Tycoon

muddermankc

this sh*t will pass, this country kicks ass.

zootallures

President Lincoln was right on the money (literally) ! Give this a watch,be patient first few minutes are a speech on blank screen.After that you won't be able to look at TV,news,politics,ect.... the same way ever again.I am a pretty harsh critic but,the pieces all seem to fit and the proof is out there if one cares to research it.(as shown in "The Corporation")Seems we are in the final stages of the NWO.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


If you finish watching this and need more "proof" The Corporation is a must see also
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=FA50FBC214A6CE87

I do not agree with everything in these documentaries but,the pieces all seem to fit.
Why else would a country "seem" to invite millions of illegal aliens past so called secured borders and hand them driver's license,health care,ect... when in other countries this happens:

Let me see if I got this right.....

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:
1 - A JOB,
2 - A DRIVERS LICENSE,
3 - SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
4 - WELFARE,
5 - FOOD STAMPS,
6 - CREDIT CARDS,
7 - SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
8 - FREE EDUCATION,
9 - FREE HEALTH CARE,
10 - A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
11 - MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
12 - AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT

Did I get it right?

Whitey97

sounds like you hit the nail on the head

Quality1st

Watched the movies and all. I was aware of the big picture and knew alot of this was going. To the extent and for how long, i was a lot naieve.They are just flat laughing at us, they own us and they know it. What is it now, something like 35% of all our taxes collected goes syraight to the federal reserve to pay the interest our government owes on borrowed money. Thats enough money to feed the world, educate and house every american and pretty much do anything in a ten year period. All thats going on and this post got only 5 replys. The world is going to heck, the country is being raped by the banking interests, things are only gonna get worse and, You Guys are fighting over the paper vs mesh topic. They own all the major media, ever wonder why all 3 major networks nightly news is exactly the same. Daaaaa" Banking system created this calamity and our politicial system which is controlled by them did what? First thing was to take care of them with our money, no money is being loaned, no jobs are being created, and the wars continue. We,ll be in Iran soon, and americans are being anestiziesed by the debate over health care. If you all want to be one of the mass of sheep in this country, have at it. Myself i,m going to read and research and get involved. Nuff Said

Darren@Partners

I save most of my political rants for a couple other sites, but..

Yes, the Federal Reserve banksters have been screwing us every minute since 1913, and will continue to do so as long as we let them.

The Sept. 08 meltdown was contrived or at least exaggerated.

Socialism is not okay. But FDR started it with SS, LBJ had Medicare and Medicaid... Both Socialist safety net programs.

It cost $5.7 million per year to fly Pelosi back and forth every week!

Obama is using a SS # that was originally issued to someone born in the 1800's, issued in CT, a state he never lived in.

I have contacted, faxed,written, called and generally made nuisance of myself to just about every official at the federal level and about half st the state level. DC reps will do as they please regardless. Contact your state Senators and Reps.

Be sure that in the 2010 election, you do your own homework on your candidates. Here we have Roy Blunt running for aSenate seat. Finding out he took $95 k from Freddie/Fannie as a Representative.... Will only vote for non-incumbants who pass the 10 conservative values test.

More later....

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rabb

man man i wish you were my union B.A here in chicago the
mexican have took all the drywall work i mean all of it , the mexican from the usa are in the cold now to , man a good post

d-rock

I understand your point, however all the nations you mentioned above are TYRANNIES. We don't need to criminalize and hurt people who cross our border illegally to work. We need to stop it in a reasonable way, we need to reform our immigration. We need to license tradespeople. etc. I am with you on so much of this, but don't get caught up in the "black helicopters" conspiracy theories. Most of these illegals work for (small) construction companies, restaurants and H.O.'s. Nothing to do with giant corporations. Perhaps there should be laws penalizing business owners and hO's that hire these people.
Additionally, non licensed trades (carpentry drywall etc) in the non union sector pay crap wages. A man cannot buy a home, put kids through college and buy a nice new car on $25 hour. Especially with no benefits. Young american kids don't want to put up with the crap of an informal apprenticeship to earn 50,000 or less and get no respect. We have made the trades evil and we have made the trades into a penalty for the uneducated. We pound college and degrees into our kids, even if they don't have the make-up for higher education or white collar work. People no longer respect the trades. It used to be different, back in the day I'm sure an auto mechanic, carpenter, electrician, plumber etc were very respected goals in life.
So why should a kid out of HS shoot for working in the trades? Small business owners in our industry need a quality work force willing to work for less b/c we can't charge more. Enter the illegal. Need I get into the rest ?

lnidrywall

d-rock, are you a union contractor?

d-rock

i'm a union carpenter. my business is not union, however I am striving to become union b/c it's the only way i'll be able to pay a talented workforce what it deserves. I can't charge union scale on non union jobs.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying we all have to go union. I'm just trying to shed light on some reasons why illegal immigrants have been a useful tool for too many contractors, and why kids today talk about the trades in disdain.

d-rock

Darren,
I agree with you, and I'm no supporter of Obama or the progressive movement in this country. However, your timeline is off, therefore your theory. SS did not exist in the 1800's, how did someone have a SS # back then ?

Darren@Partners

Issued to a person born in the 1800's..... Who has since died and this number is now being used by Barry.

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Darren@Partners

When FDR got SSI going, folks had to get a number, some being in their 60's. Making their birthdates back in the 1800's. Barry's grandma worked in an office in HA where she had access to SSN's of the deceased. Barry may have used in excess of 15 different SS #'s, the one being used now was issued out of CT. The 1st three numbers of the SSN tells which state it was issued in. Pm me, I'll send you a couple of links.

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Darren@Partners

D-rock, yes all tyrannies. But US is fast approaching being a tyranny as well. A tyranny is when the people fear their govt. A republic is when the govt. fears the people. Which are we? Do you fear the IRS? Even if you're totally IRS compliant, these guys can kick down your door and seize everything, without a warrant. Can you say " fourth amendment"?

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zootallures

[quote=d-rock;10645]I understand your point, however all the nations you mentioned above are TYRANNIES. We don't need to criminalize and hurt people who cross our border illegally to work. We need to stop it in a reasonable way, we need to reform our immigration. We need to license tradespeople. etc. I am with you on so much of this, but don't get caught up in the "black helicopters" conspiracy theories. Most of these illegals work for (small) construction companies, restaurants and H.O.'s. Nothing to do with giant corporations. Perhaps there should be laws penalizing business owners and hO's that hire these people.
Additionally, non licensed trades (carpentry drywall etc) in the non union sector pay crap wages. A man cannot buy a home, put kids through college and buy a nice new car on $25 hour. Especially with no benefits. Young american kids don't want to put up with the crap of an informal apprenticeship to earn 50,000 or less and get no respect. We have made the trades evil and we have made the trades into a penalty for the uneducated. We pound college and degrees into our kids, even if they don't have the make-up for higher education or white collar work. People no longer respect the trades. It used to be different, back in the day I'm sure an auto mechanic, carpenter, electrician, plumber etc were very respected goals in life.
So why should a kid out of HS shoot for working in the trades? Small business owners in our industry need a quality work force willing to work for less b/c we can't charge more. Enter the illegal. Need I get into the rest ?[/quote

Illegal..............does NOT pay taxes,of course they work cheaper. No one seems to mention this ever

lnidrywall

d-rock, why aren't you working union?

d-rock

i left an excellent union job to start my own business.

d-rock

darren
the idea is tempting to me. the dark side of me wants to see hussein as some planted manchurian candidate. however, the logical side of me disagrees. i do believe whole heartedly, that he is an out and out communist, and radical progressive.