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Old 05-31-2011, 08:46 PM   #1
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Been boxing my NO Coat tight with 8" and 10" looks fricken SWEEET does anybody else?

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Been boxing my NO Coat tight with 8" and 10" looks fricken SWEEET does anybody else?
yes chris I Level out my no coat after application .. still not sure why they call it no coat.
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think bcause you dont have to coat bead ...you know like a 1/2" in from bead b4 the flap or crease on outside corners same with inside corners..stay outta the middle...I think
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there's a product called mid flex, it should be the product that's called no-coat. your could probably finish this product with a nail spotter, but we don't. The no-coat takes way more mud. But I'm talking 45 degree inside angles.

Guess we can finally get the pre-cut no-coat, but it's still too much $$$$$$.

Are you talking no-coat on beads or 45's (maybe a dumb ??)

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there's a product called mid flex, it should be the product that's called no-coat. your could probably finish this product with a nail spotter, but we don't. The no-coat takes way more mud. But I'm talking 45 degree inside angles.

Guess we can finally get the pre-cut no-coat, but it's still too much $$$$$$.

Are you talking no-coat on beads or 45's (maybe a dumb ??)

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mid-flex straight flex ,,, same thing ,, I don't trust either one. even still they both have to be leveled out after application . the print side is slick.. The white side has a fuzz to it , always apply print side out.then x your fingers.,,,, and hope for the best...
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On both. Have used 3.25 and the big on inside open angles for a while now(used to just hotmud and use rubber knife t round)but recently been using on ouside 90,s and 45,s the box works good on both,pre-cuts also. Just wonderin if anybody else uses boxes to coat
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On both. Have used 3.25 and the big on inside open angles for a while now(used to just hotmud and use rubber knife t round)but recently been using on ouside 90,s and 45,s the box works good on both,pre-cuts also. Just wonderin if anybody else uses boxes to coat
IMO, the no-coat on the bead, would work with the boxes, they take a lot less mud, and I can see the no-coat being the #1 bead world wide one day.

The no-coat is the only bead I would experiment with using boxes, from what I seen on you tube. Don't think I would be keen on doing the forty fives that way. to me putting the 45's on is the pain,not coating them so.......
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mid-flex straight flex ,,, same thing ,, I don't trust either one. even still they both have to be leveled out after application . the print side is slick.. The white side has a fuzz to it , always apply print side out.then x your fingers.,,,, and hope for the best...
No no no, straight flex is a garbage product, no-coat and mid flex are Kick a$$ products, there's lots of old post about this on here.

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Yep I box nocoat all day long
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Been boxing my NO Coat tight with 8" and 10" looks fricken SWEEET does anybody else?
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YEAH no coat is hands down the best .. but I don't see the difference between straight flex ,and mid flex ,,,,, same thing?? I'm a hard head.
so.......
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The DM 5.5 flatbox is great for No Coat.
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I have experience with no-coat corner bead and it takes more mud then paper

Also it sucks to work because you have to press way harder to set the bead and if the corner is out of square you have to crown fill the corner.

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YEAH no coat is hands down the best .. but I don't see the difference between straight flex ,and mid flex ,,,,, same thing?? I'm a hard head.
so.......
Ok hard head
The no-coat and mid-flex are more alike, the no-coat is thicker in comparison, while the mid-flex is way more thinner, they are both a paper based products. I find when loading the no-coat on 45' insides, you got to load fairly close to the point (blue line), so they take a lot more mud. they take a bit more attention to detail when checking with light etc. the no-coat is good for fixing crooked stuff too.

the mid-flex should be called no-coat b/c you keep away from the point (black line) and just coat the edges. You will see all the back lines when finished, very easy to sand out too. it can scare you how little mud goes on them. It lays way flatter/tighter to the wall b/c it is so thin.

Straight flex is all vinyl, not paper based,and it's junk b/c it can pop off. and you would know this if you read through all the post
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I have experience with no-coat corner bead and it takes more mud then paper

Also it sucks to work because you have to press way harder to set the bead and if the corner is out of square you have to crown fill the corner.

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You may have experience, but the part of the install where you save on mud vs paper is more up to you and how you want to install NO COAT. You can install it with a ¼" fill gap if you want, or 1/16". You decide.

Yes, I agree you have to press hard. There are tricks to make it all work so the corner will look straight and always take just a little fill.
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For the OP: No, I do not coat my NO COAT with my flatbox. I usually install it and coat it the same day and I don't like hitting it with the box if it hasn't bonded and dried 100% yet.
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I use a wooden wallpaper seam roller for bedding the No Coat, It makes a great job of flattining it out and its easier than trying to press it down with a knife, One backwipe to fill then one finsih coat and its sorted
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I use a wooden wallpaper seam roller for bedding the No Coat, It makes a great job of flattining it out and its easier than trying to press it down with a knife, One backwipe to fill then one finsih coat and its sorted
These things here cazna http://www.o-geepaint.com/Wallpaper/Wallpaper.shtml

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I use a wooden wallpaper seam roller for bedding the No Coat, It makes a great job of flattining it out and its easier than trying to press it down with a knife, One backwipe to fill then one finsih coat and its sorted
Interesting - might try that one out - should work as well for regular paper and metal bead as well? Another tool for the tool kit.
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These things here cazna http://www.o-geepaint.com/Wallpaper/Wallpaper.shtml

If I'm wrong, please post a picture of the roller, and don't forget to have some sheep in the back ground

Its the little wooden roller, You would need one like this with one support arm, Its a little smaller in width than the no coat plastic so it puts the mud to the paper, it dosnt roll the paper so it dosnt get messy, Just wipe the paper with a knife, The roller is much better than trying to push it out with a corner of a knife, Its Firmer and dosnt damge the no coat paper like forcing it with a knife can, Im sure you all know how much of a nusience damaged no coat paper is, And the roller dosnt seem to leave "Bumps" as wiping with a knife sometimes can.

See the other paint roller and yellow foam 5mm nap sleeve, Thats other type of roller i use to bed fibafuse on smaller jobs with hot muds, Its great, Never tryed it with paper, Would prob work.

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Good stuff!!! Did you have to fit an inner sleeve to get the pipe to fit or was it a similar size anyway?
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